good advice here Ray. However I remember when we were much younger and 
had good cars like a 55 Chevy Bel Air.  we used to get the cars bumper 
to bumper. of course back then they were all metal. that was the ground 
and put  both jumper cables  direct. was it safe? naw probably not. 
those were the old batteries which you had to top off with distilled 
water or fresh water from the creek. Lee



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Short people get rained on last.

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