Now you tell me. Grin. Nobody said anything about an installation kit. Each tile had some sort of padding on the back.
Regards. Max. K 4 O D S. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transistor site http://www.funwithtransistors.net Vacuum tube site: http://www.funwithtubes.net Music site: http://www.maxsmusicplace.com To subscribe to the fun with tubes group send an email to, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lenny McHugh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 6:12 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Teddybear cottage, the floor. > Max, > Did you purchase or rent the install kit? When I did the kitchen floor I > purchased the kit. It included 1/4" spacers for around the perimeter and > a > bent bar close to a Z shape. for the ends when you align you put one end > of > the bar against the flooring section and then whack the other with a > hammer > to pull it tight. > Also did you put the plastic foam under the floating floor? > Lenny http://www.geocities.com/lenny_mchugh/ > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Max Robinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 6:09 PM > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Teddybear cottage, the floor. > > > The flooring was in the building over a week end before being installed. > Yes, it takes a lot of force to make the short edges go together. > > Regards. > > Max. K 4 O D S. > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Transistor site http://www.funwithtransistors.net > Vacuum tube site: http://www.funwithtubes.net > Music site: http://www.maxsmusicplace.com > > To subscribe to the fun with tubes group send an email to, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dale Leavens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 4:45 PM > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Teddybear cottage, the floor. > > >> You don't work in from the edges to the middle, just a few rows. This >> allows you to shift the remaining couple of courses but keeps you away >> from one wall. By floating I meant you to understand that you don't fit >> the floor tight to the walls. >> >> Still, I am surprised to hear that you had to apply that much force to >> get >> the laminate to interconnect. I don't remember if they recommend >> acclimatizing those composite floors to the building for a couple of days >> before laying it to equalize the humidity or not. They do with real wood >> flooring. >> >> Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Skype DaleLeavens >> Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Max Robinson >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 2:34 PM >> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Teddybear cottage, the floor. >> >> >> Dale. If you worked in from the edges, somewhere in the middle you would >> have to fit in 3 sides. That would be totally impossible not almost >> impossible as it is with 2 sides. You have to tilt up the one you are >> installing, lock into the one that is there and lower it down. Then you >> have to slide the new one to the side to engage the one beside it. The >> floor is completely floating. We screwed down the sub floor. >> >> Regards. >> >> Max. K 4 O D S. >> >> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> Transistor site http://www.funwithtransistors.net >> Vacuum tube site: http://www.funwithtubes.net >> Music site: http://www.maxsmusicplace.com >> >> To subscribe to the fun with tubes group send an email to, >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Dale Leavens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 8:45 PM >> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Teddybear cottage, the floor. >> >> > Max, >> > >> > The pros carefully measure and center the lay-out to balance the edges >> so >> > that there is the same partial width on both edges. They also leave a >> > slight gap so that the field floats. This allows for any dimensional >> > changes although those laminates tend to be pretty stable and so will >> the >> > sawdust MDF immediately below. >> > >> > To keep you away from the edges like that they may lay a couple of >> courses >> > at the edge then fill the field up to them. You can then lift the edge >> > that little bit and snap the field into it when you get there. The >> trim >> > covers the gap at the edges. >> > >> > Hope this helps. >> > >> > Another tip, pull any nails which migrate up and replace with screws. >> > Because the buildings are fairly new this may be the joists drying out >> but >> > I suspect they may be a little light and are bouncing just a little as >> you >> > move across them causing the sheeting to pull the nails up then >> releasing >> > them until the next time you drag your big over them. If this is so >> you >> > will be glad to have left a little gap around the edge for movement. >> Even >> > when laid on concrete though the field is intended to float and should >> be >> > a quarter inch or a little better shy all around. >> > >> > Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > Skype DaleLeavens >> > Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat. >> > >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: Max Robinson >> > To: Blind Handyman >> > Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 8:30 PM >> > Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Teddybear cottage, the floor. >> > >> > >> > Next, the floor. The floor provided by the builders was most >> > unsatisfactory. First of all, some of the pieces of plywood were >> thicker >> > than others. There were large headed nails driven in at an angle. The >> > ones >> > that were straight kept popping up. No matter how many times we >> pounded >> > them down they kept rearing their ugly heads again. >> > >> > On the advice of the people in the flooring department at Lowe's, >> > >> > we put sheets of 3/4 inch MDF over the old flooring making sure not to >> > use >> > the same layout so seems would not coincide. It was fastened down with >> > liquid nails and woodscrews in the corners. It came out nice and flat. >> > >> > Next, we put down laminated floor tiles with padding on the back. >> > >> > The tiles are approximately 4 feet by 1 foot and have edges something >> > like a >> > tung and groove with a catch on the tung that catches in the groove >> and >> > holds them together once locked in place. These are on all four sides. >> > The >> > instructions say to alternate the short seams which gives a stair-step >> > appearance. >> > >> > The first row was just laid down and locked together end to end >> working >> > right to left. To start the second row the first tile had to be cut in >> > half. These went down and the third row started with another whole >> tile. >> > >> > It wasn't quite as easy as the salesman said it would be. The long >> edges >> > were fairly easy, just lift up the edge of the tile, lock it to the >> > previously laid one and lay it down. It would lock in place. That was >> OK >> > for the long edge but the second in a row, and all subsequent ones to >> the >> > left, required that the newly added tile had to be slid to the right >> > without >> > being lifted up to engage the short seam. One of the half pieces was >> > pressed into service for this. It was placed against the short seam >> which >> > matched so considerable force could be put on it without damaging the >> > wanted >> > tile. The cut end could be pounded on with a hammer to force the good >> > tile >> > to move and engage the next one down. Then the "tool" could be removed >> > leaving an undamaged edge for the next one in line. This piece of tile >> > was >> > a scrap that was of no further use. >> > >> > When the wall on the left was reached a tile had to be cut to fill the >> > remaining space. The "tool" could not be used here because all the >> space >> > had been filled. The tiles had to be cut short enough to allow >> something >> > to >> > be wedged in between the end of the tile and the wall to force it to >> the >> > right. We started by prying with a large file but that wouldn't go far >> > enough. Next we inserted the claws of a claw-hammer into the crack and >> > pried against the wall. This resulted in some damaged paneling and >> also >> > broken edges of the tiles. Most of the damage was covered by the base >> > board >> > and quarter round but there are still a couple of broken places >> showing >> > both >> > in the paneling and the floor tiles. Some well placed furniture will >> > cover >> > these mistakes. >> > >> > It seems impossible to make the last one in line lock in place without >> > doing >> > some damage to the wall and tiles. I wonder how the hell the pros do >> it. >> > >> > Regards. >> > >> > Max. 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