I believe it is a nominal 240 at 50 Hz., modern circuits usually 13 amps which 
is very convenient. Most appliances these days are fused right at the plug, a 
little cartridge fuse on a mounting right in the plug where it should be. The 
circuit is fused too, now with breakers but when I was there it was a porcelain 
fuse holder through which you threaded a length of fuse wire.

Many of the home renovations done on programmes like This Old House end up with 
extreme kitchens. Things like two sinks in different locations, freezer drawers 
and cooling drawers, refrigerators larger than my bathroom and the most 
gigantic ranges. Stainless steel has been the finish of preference, this may be 
changing now, I can't imagine keeping stainless steel looking nice in that 
quantity but they do. Granit seems to be the preferred counter top material, 
hundreds of pounds per section. Don't spill acid or forget to wipe up 
immediately after setting something like an orange on it though or you will 
have the image on it until ground and polished off.

Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Bob Kennedy 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 11:26 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] all I want for christmas is a double oven 
range+reason for gas question


  Sounds like almost a commercial set up. I've remodeled kitchens for people 
before and something of that scale was never mentioned. I could build one in 
easy enough but I'd leave there shaking my head... 

  Hinged on the side? I have lead a sheltered life it seems... Isn't it true in 
England they run everything on 220 volts? Never been there before, but I seem 
to remember hearing that before.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Dale Leavens 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 11:08 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] all I want for christmas is a double oven 
range+reason for gas question

  Bob,

  They make huge ranges these days, several feet wide, the sort of thing you 
would expect to find in a commercial kitchen. They include warming drawers, 
things I don't understand and even on the cook tops things like griddles, 
barbecue pits and six or eight elements. You probably need a hundred amp 
circuit for the range alone.

  I remember our next door neighbour in Kirkland Lake when I was just a kid 
about the mid '50s having a side-by-side oven electric range. I don't remember 
much about it except how proud she was with it. They were a family who had it 
all on the never never plan, a progression of television sets which were really 
new up there at the time and we only received one television signal and that 
pretty fuzzy from Timmins about 70 miles away.

  Anyway, what I remember mostly was that it was huge and my mother commenting 
on the fact that dear Juliette didn't really cook when she had a single oven.

  I don't remember what if anything was under the ovens, maybe just storage 
drawers maybe nothing at all. I don't recall there being more than four 
elements on the top either and that was well before ranges had exhaust fans 
integrated into them.

  Double ovens were relatively common in England but usually one over the other 
and usually hinged on one side.

  Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Skype DaleLeavens
  Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Bob Kennedy 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 10:24 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] all I want for christmas is a double oven 
range+reason for gas question

  The double oven I was talking about in the wall is the one over the other 
style. I would think a side by side would require a lot of baking to make it 
worth the lost space. 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Dale Leavens 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 10:17 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] all I want for christmas is a double oven 
range+reason for gas question

  Coil cook tops are still made and they also still make the solid plate type.

  While I haven't been in the market for a range in a long time the standard 
sizes are 24 and 30 inches. There are now many larger as well. I have only seen 
double side-by-side ovens in wider ones but there may be some as narrow as 30 
inches I don't know that. I have also seen some one above the other but not 
often, more commonly when I lived in England.

  So, they do make the top you want but I don't know about the double oven.

  Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Shane Hecker 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 9:33 PM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] all I want for christmas is a double oven 
range+reason for gas question

  There's a twist. I want a double oven range with a *coil* cooktop. However, 
  I don't know of any ranges that have this setup, so thought gas (at least 
  for the top) was my only choice. Hence, I asked about running a gas line. 
  Now, lets suppose gas is not an option. Can you fit a double oven and a 
  cooktop in the same space as a standard range? This is assuming of course 
  coil cooktops are still made.

  Shane

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