No thanks.  I lived in South Carolina back in the 80s.  It got down to 5 below 
one time and I thought Buffalo had followed me South.   My first year South I 
cut a Christmas tree down in a tee shirt and it was never below 75 for a whole 
stretch.  Of course my last winter near Buffalo was 23 below, that was 1983.  
That was unusually cold even for that area but I couldn't get away fast enough.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Dale Leavens 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 10:50 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] aHey, I want sympathy too


  We generally get a couple or three weeks of 40 below in February although I 
don't think it hit that once last winter.

  As a kid in Kirkland Lake just an hour and a half south of here I well 
remember walking to school at 60 and 65 below there were no school busses in 
those days. Now they take the school busses off if it gets below 38 below. The 
town used to put a second bus on the municipal service but the doors would 
freeze open so it was actually preferable to walk.

  They didn't put computers in cars then , there weren't really computers, many 
wouldn't start. Dad's old 55 Dodge Custom Royal always seemed to start and the 
chap across the street had one of the early VW Beetles which always seemed to 
start albeit with clouds of smoke. He used to have to bring out kettles of hot 
water though to get the wheels to turn and if we were lucky he'd give us a 
ride. No heaters in those cars, I imagine it was a bit like climbing into a 
coffin, have never done that so don't really know.

  The good news was that Dad would pick us up on his way home from the mine in 
the evening.

  I have only seen it get down to fifty below once when I was up here in about 
1977 or so. This time since 1989 I don't think we have had below about 45 
below. Seems to me we have been observing some form of global warming for about 
45 years already.

  This winter though is shaping up to be a bit more severe. At least we will 
have good high banks for our boxing day road hockey tournament. Last Christmas 
we were playing on pretty well bare pavement.

  Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
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  Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Bob Kennedy 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 8:19 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] aHey, I want sympathy too

  Coldest for me was 40 below zero in a town called Old Forge New York. I owned 
a Polaris dealership way back when and we rented trucks. 6 of my 
friend/customers and I loaded snow mobiles in the truck and went for a weekend. 
The driveway was about a quarter mile long and when I got to the end I shut my 
sled off and walked back to the house. I volunteered to keep the fire going...
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: tunecollector 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 6:17 PM
  Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] aHey, I want sympathy too

  I cannot fathom that. The coldest that I have experienced was 19 degrees
  and that, by the way, was in the desert.

  -----Original Message-----
  From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  On Behalf Of Dale Leavens
  Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 3:03 PM
  To: [email protected]
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] aHey, I want sympathy too

  It is just on 6 p.m. I just walked home from work, and Janet put down a
  plate of roast beef in front of me.

  It is minus 22C which is close on 6F below. I don't know how cold they are
  expecting tonight but it is clear out there so probably pretty cold.

  Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
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  Skype DaleLeavens
  Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: bruce 
  To: [email protected] <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> 
  Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 5:18 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] aHey, I want sympathy too

  oh but tonight it is going down to 10 farenheight.

  Bruce

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