Jim,

Out of curiosity, where are you located?

I see that my message to you is stamped 6:32 a.m. It left here more like 9:32 
a.m.

I am not so sure that voice recognition is quite ready. I have my house phone 
number as "home" but my phone recognizes it about half of the time. I feel 
somewhat silly arguing with my damn phone in the Hospital parking lot as I 
leave work. It can be quicker to punch the stick a couple of times to get the 
number and dial it up.

I am pretty sure WayFinder can do what I want and I am pleased about the small 
size. As it is I carry a computer bag with my notebook in it, a spare battery 
and power supply, usually some paperwork in the folder compartment, keys and 
sundry other things in the front pocket, already my mobile phone pouch is slung 
from the shoulder strap. My coat pockets are full of mitts and a ski band to 
protect my ears from the cold and a tissue or two to wipe away the dripping 
nose. There is a wallet and check book in the inside pocket and when not in use 
my cane has to go somewhere. The computer bag already weighs just around 15 
pounds The Holux 240 GPS receiver truly is about the size of a match box or 
zippo lighter for those used to such smokers paraphernalia, very manageable. 
When traveling or on vacation I usually carry what I call my purse, a small bag 
suitable to carry my cane, passport, tickets and such, somehow it always seems 
to fill up. It is the portability and multi-use of the phone platform I like.If 
I am organized enough I can copy talking books and magazines onto memory cards 
which take up all most no room and slip into the phone and don't require 
additional equipment and less power supplies and chargers to carry around.

What is wanted now is concurrent applications so I can monitor a bus trip for 
example while listening to a talking book.

I think I will have to investigate bluetooth hearing of some sort. I don't 
think I want something in my ear but I probably need something stuck in the 
collar of my parka or something so I don't have to have the phone out in the 
open in the winter. Even if I can keep it in my left mitt where I can 
manipulate the menu buttons and joy stick that might be better. My best mitts 
are sheepskin lined with the fleece but telephone sound doesn't escape from 
that well unless the volume is really high.

So, if anyone has experience of bluetooth listening without oblitterating 
environmental listening I would be very interested to hear about it.

Thanks.

Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Skype DaleLeavens
Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat.


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: tunecollector 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 9:48 AM
  Subject: RE: [Bulk] Re: [BlindHandyMan] Wayfinder update link


  Thanks Dale for this info. I am still sitting on the fence on whether to
  get Wayfinder or Trekker. At this time, neither has convinced that it is
  the solution. I guess I am waiting for a GPS that operates by coice
  recognition. Somehow, I think keying in the info is too cumbersome.
  Jim

  -----Original Message-----
  From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  On Behalf Of Dale Leavens
  Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 6:32 AM
  To: [email protected]
  Subject: [Bulk] Re: [BlindHandyMan] Wayfinder update link

  Hi, Sorry I just can't remember your actual name just now.

  I bought WayFinder Access just before Christmas. Yesterday I figured out how
  to properly input a destination and I had it walk me to work and home again.
  While it knew the technical address for the hospital and even the new
  corporate name but the street address is a large area and WayFinder seemed
  to want to take me to the location of the old hospital several hundred yards
  distant. Further, it wants to take me on a zig-zag route and not the more
  direct one.

  Walking back from work it wants to take me a similar route. So far though it
  seems to be pretty accurate. The initial estimated distance seems to me to
  be a little short. When I first turn onto 6th street it tells me two hundred
  metres to my final turn. About two hundred metres later it again informs me
  of 200 metres to my next turn then reminds me at about a hundred metres, 50
  metres, 25 metres then pretty well right on the intersection it tells me to
  turn here.

  It told me I had reached my destination about 3 metres short of my driveway,
  pretty good really.

  So far I haven't figured out how to lay down my own route and I would like
  to be able to lay down a preferred route in advance of a trip. I have a
  message into their assistance but so far no response.

  I find the documentation to be weak. There is a lot of general detail about
  what you can do but a little soft on just how to do it. I assume I can add
  points of interest or give names to addresses, the name of my hardware store
  or barber shop instead of a street address or to replace the names of
  businesses which have disappeared.

  The other thing is the cost of operation. While in Europe where GPRS is
  widely available and there are several operators offering it, here only
  Rogers/Fido have wide digital coverage and they charge a lot for packet data
  service. It is generally a bit better in the United States. This is one
  reason why Apple isn't releasing their IPhone here, another reason is that
  there is already a Canadian company with rights to the term IPhone for an IP
  phone device. I don't yet fully understand but it seems that WayFinder goes
  to the network to calculate a route every time and if you deviate off of the
  route it also goes back to the network to recalculate. I don't know why that
  can't be saved on the phone these new phones can hold GIGs of memory on
  card. Maybe it can, there is absolutely no reference to it in any of the
  documentation I have so far been able to access.

  I haven't yet really calculated the costings I think it was a bit over two
  bucks on my walk to work yesterday about a 15 minute walk.

  So far another problem is keying in an address. You have to turn on the GPS
  receiver first and make that connection when you open WayFinder. Then you
  can enter the address but the GPS receiver won't usually acquire satellite
  signal until you are outdoors when you can then initiate the find and route
  instructions. We haven't had 40 below yet but even at 20 below or warmer
  with a wind you don't want to be trying to thumb in any addresses.

  The receiver and the phone both seem to work fairly well in the breast
  pocket of my parka though. I haven't discovered though if there is a way to
  get the phone to repeat an instruction if you miss it for any reason.

  I'll try to keep you informed as I become more capable with the unit. I did
  try to subscribe to the WayFinder e-mail list but did not succeed, I'll try
  to find that link again, probably other users will be more helpful. If
  anyone has that subscription information I would be pleased to have it.

  Thanks.

  Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:DLeavens%40puc.net> 
  Skype DaleLeavens
  Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: tunecollector 
  To: [email protected] <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> 
  Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 2:48 PM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Wayfinder update link

  The link below is to the Wayfinder site with an update on its package and
  pricing.

  http://www.wayfinder.com/?id=3784 <http://www.wayfinder.com/?id=3784> 
  <http://www.wayfinder.com/?id=3784&lang=en-US
  <http://www.wayfinder.com/?id=3784&lang=en-US> > &lang=en-US

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