Yes that is true and I guess what I was thinking is if batteries were such that they would last a long time and would be more environmentally friendly, but we're a long way from there. I do believe the small amount of electricity is probably a bit negligible, but they of course are looking at it from an accumulitive point. Hey, I'm all for saving electricity since its in our best interest. If I could put solar pannels on my roof for a reasonable cost, use that power and give some back to the grid when I don't need it, I'd do so. Hey, if I were a power company, I'd look at ways of getting solar power to folks at a reasonable cost to do just that. There is a way, just no one has worked hard on the sollution.
On Jan 18, 2008, at 11:52 PM, Max Robinson wrote: > Scott wrote. > > then what would be nice is if manufacturers would come up with > creative ways like having batteries that replace the standby power. > > Since batteries aren't grown by little elves in hollow trees, the > energy to > manufacture the batteries is much greater than the energy stored in > them. > Add to that the chemicals that are dumped into the environment when > the > batteries are thrown away. In other words, you don't save energy by > using > batteries. > > Regards. > > Max. K 4 O D S. > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Transistor site http://www.funwithtransistors.net > Vacuum tube site: http://www.funwithtubes.net > Music site: http://www.maxsmusicplace.com > > To subscribe to the fun with tubes group send an email to, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Scott Howell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 8:16 PM > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Save Energy, Eliminate Phantom Loads > > >I suspect why most people won't do this is they like their clocks > etc. > > all connected and keeping time and add that to the fact they'd > have to > > turn the strip on or plug the device back in, its a bother. I > imagine > > then if your hvac system is off, and will be for a while, maybe > throw > > the breaker? Seriously, if this would really help save electricity, > > then what would be nice is if manufacturers would come up with > > creative ways like having batteries that replace the standby power. > > WIth the advances in battery technology, maybe this would be a good > > approach and the battery could be recharged while the unit is in > use. > > Kind of makes sense and it would be nice to know really how much > > electricity is being used while these things are in standb y mode or > > not being used at all. Like a washing machine, would it really use > > anything while just sitting there idle? I guess its possible since > > what I imagine is being said, by being connected to the circuit, > > electricity is still flowing through the motor even while idle? > > This is a very interesting topic. Maybe its something to try for a > > month or so. > > > > On Jan 18, 2008, at 4:18 PM, Ray Boyce wrote: > > > >> Save Energy, Eliminate Phantom Loads > >> > >> Many home electronics and appliances consume power anytime they're > >> plugged > >> in, even when they're turned off. > >> > >> Did you know that your TV is consuming energy even when you're not > >> using it? > >> In fact, according to the U.S. Department of Energy, > >> 75 percent > >> of the electricity that powers home electronics is consumed while > >> these > >> devices are turned off! If that sounds like a high figure, consider > >> that > >> most home > >> electronics - including stereos, computers, televisions and DVD > >> players - > >> are using > >> standby power > >> anytime they're switched off, and that adds up quickly when these > >> devices > >> are plugged in 24 hours a day. > >> > >> Electricity consumed when the power is turned off is called a > >> phantom load, > >> ghost load or vampire load, and they're common not only in home > >> electronics, > >> but in many home appliances as well, such as stoves, washers and > >> dryers. > >> > >> That electricity shows up on your bill just the same as if you were > >> using it > >> for something more rewarding, and it makes the same contribution to > >> air > >> pollution, > >> global warming and other environmental problems. The good news is > >> that if > >> you're looking for ways to save energy, reducing phantom loads is > an > >> easy, > >> painless > >> way to start. Here are a couple of strategies to try. > >> > >> Turn it off, then unplug it. For any electrical device you would > >> like to > >> turn completely off, this is the foolproof way to do it. Take that > >> phantom > >> loads! > >> > >> Consolidate your cords with power strips. It can be a hassle to > unplug > >> multiple cords, so many energy experts recommend plugging all those > >> cords > >> into power > >> strips to make it easy to turn off all the devices at once. A newer > >> type of > >> power strip called the > >> smart strip > >> can make this even easier. Use one with your computer or TV, and it > >> turns > >> off all the peripheral devices automatically. > >> > >> Measure and target phantom loads. In many cases you can guess which > >> appliances are most likely to have phantom loads - start with > >> anything with > >> a remote > >> control or a digital display. Look around and you may be surprised > >> at how > >> many you have. But there's a simple way to find out exactly how > much > >> power > >> each > >> gadget uses. An inexpensive home meter such as the > >> Kill-a-Watt > >> can help you measure the electrical use of all your appliances and > >> electronics. It's an easy way to find which devices are burning a > >> lot of > >> power whether > >> they're turned on or off. > >> > >> Find energy-efficient products. Another way to avoid phantom loads > >> is to > >> look for energy-efficient products whenever you're shopping. A good > >> place to > >> start > >> is by looking for an > >> Energy Star > >> label. You also can check out the Department of Energy's > >> recommendations > >> for buying products that use minimal standby power, and use this > >> database > >> to check how much standby power certain products use. > >> The Smart Strip monitors power consumption and can sense the > >> difference > >> between when computers and other devices are on or off. Upon > >> figuring this > >> out, > >> it shuts off the power, eliminating the idle current drawn from > >> them. There > >> are a couple different models and options (including fax/modem and > >> something > >> called "extended sensing") and they run from US $32 to $35; Smart > >> Strip > >> claims it will pay for itself in as little as six weeks, > >> Anyone tried one of these, and your opinion please > >> > >> > >> > > > > Scott Howell > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > To listen to the show archives go to link > > http://acbradio.org/handyman.html > > or > > ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ > > > > The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. > > http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday > > > > Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From > Various > > List Members At The Following address: > > http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ > > > > Visit the archives page at the following address > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > > > > If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the > following > > address for more information: > > http://www.jaws-users.com/ > > For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind > Handy Man > > list just send a blank message to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Yahoo! 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