We can hope. But even the energy put into the rechargable batteries comes from the power plant. We would need solar rechargers at least. But things are coming along.
On Sat, 19 Jan 2008, Scott Howell wrote: > Yes that is true and I guess what I was thinking is if batteries were > such that they would last a long time and would be more > environmentally friendly, but we're a long way from there. I do > believe the small amount of electricity is probably a bit negligible, > but they of course are looking at it from an accumulitive point. Hey, > I'm all for saving electricity since its in our best interest. If I > could put solar pannels on my roof for a reasonable cost, use that > power and give some back to the grid when I don't need it, I'd do so. > Hey, if I were a power company, I'd look at ways of getting solar > power to folks at a reasonable cost to do just that. There is a way, > just no one has worked hard on the sollution. > > On Jan 18, 2008, at 11:52 PM, Max Robinson wrote: > >> Scott wrote. >> >> then what would be nice is if manufacturers would come up with >> creative ways like having batteries that replace the standby power. >> >> Since batteries aren't grown by little elves in hollow trees, the >> energy to >> manufacture the batteries is much greater than the energy stored in >> them. >> Add to that the chemicals that are dumped into the environment when >> the >> batteries are thrown away. In other words, you don't save energy by >> using >> batteries. >> >> Regards. >> >> Max. K 4 O D S. >> >> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> Transistor site http://www.funwithtransistors.net >> Vacuum tube site: http://www.funwithtubes.net >> Music site: http://www.maxsmusicplace.com >> >> To subscribe to the fun with tubes group send an email to, >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Scott Howell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 8:16 PM >> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Save Energy, Eliminate Phantom Loads >> >>> I suspect why most people won't do this is they like their clocks >> etc. >>> all connected and keeping time and add that to the fact they'd >> have to >>> turn the strip on or plug the device back in, its a bother. I >> imagine >>> then if your hvac system is off, and will be for a while, maybe >> throw >>> the breaker? Seriously, if this would really help save electricity, >>> then what would be nice is if manufacturers would come up with >>> creative ways like having batteries that replace the standby power. >>> WIth the advances in battery technology, maybe this would be a good >>> approach and the battery could be recharged while the unit is in >> use. >>> Kind of makes sense and it would be nice to know really how much >>> electricity is being used while these things are in standb y mode or >>> not being used at all. Like a washing machine, would it really use >>> anything while just sitting there idle? I guess its possible since >>> what I imagine is being said, by being connected to the circuit, >>> electricity is still flowing through the motor even while idle? >>> This is a very interesting topic. Maybe its something to try for a >>> month or so. >>> >>> On Jan 18, 2008, at 4:18 PM, Ray Boyce wrote: >>> >>>> Save Energy, Eliminate Phantom Loads >>>> >>>> Many home electronics and appliances consume power anytime they're >>>> plugged >>>> in, even when they're turned off. >>>> >>>> Did you know that your TV is consuming energy even when you're not >>>> using it? >>>> In fact, according to the U.S. Department of Energy, >>>> 75 percent >>>> of the electricity that powers home electronics is consumed while >>>> these >>>> devices are turned off! If that sounds like a high figure, consider >>>> that >>>> most home >>>> electronics - including stereos, computers, televisions and DVD >>>> players - >>>> are using >>>> standby power >>>> anytime they're switched off, and that adds up quickly when these >>>> devices >>>> are plugged in 24 hours a day. >>>> >>>> Electricity consumed when the power is turned off is called a >>>> phantom load, >>>> ghost load or vampire load, and they're common not only in home >>>> electronics, >>>> but in many home appliances as well, such as stoves, washers and >>>> dryers. >>>> >>>> That electricity shows up on your bill just the same as if you were >>>> using it >>>> for something more rewarding, and it makes the same contribution to >>>> air >>>> pollution, >>>> global warming and other environmental problems. The good news is >>>> that if >>>> you're looking for ways to save energy, reducing phantom loads is >> an >>>> easy, >>>> painless >>>> way to start. Here are a couple of strategies to try. >>>> >>>> Turn it off, then unplug it. For any electrical device you would >>>> like to >>>> turn completely off, this is the foolproof way to do it. Take that >>>> phantom >>>> loads! >>>> >>>> Consolidate your cords with power strips. It can be a hassle to >> unplug >>>> multiple cords, so many energy experts recommend plugging all those >>>> cords >>>> into power >>>> strips to make it easy to turn off all the devices at once. A newer >>>> type of >>>> power strip called the >>>> smart strip >>>> can make this even easier. Use one with your computer or TV, and it >>>> turns >>>> off all the peripheral devices automatically. >>>> >>>> Measure and target phantom loads. In many cases you can guess which >>>> appliances are most likely to have phantom loads - start with >>>> anything with >>>> a remote >>>> control or a digital display. Look around and you may be surprised >>>> at how >>>> many you have. But there's a simple way to find out exactly how >> much >>>> power >>>> each >>>> gadget uses. An inexpensive home meter such as the >>>> Kill-a-Watt >>>> can help you measure the electrical use of all your appliances and >>>> electronics. It's an easy way to find which devices are burning a >>>> lot of >>>> power whether >>>> they're turned on or off. >>>> >>>> Find energy-efficient products. Another way to avoid phantom loads >>>> is to >>>> look for energy-efficient products whenever you're shopping. A good >>>> place to >>>> start >>>> is by looking for an >>>> Energy Star >>>> label. You also can check out the Department of Energy's >>>> recommendations >>>> for buying products that use minimal standby power, and use this >>>> database >>>> to check how much standby power certain products use. >>>> The Smart Strip monitors power consumption and can sense the >>>> difference >>>> between when computers and other devices are on or off. Upon >>>> figuring this >>>> out, >>>> it shuts off the power, eliminating the idle current drawn from >>>> them. There >>>> are a couple different models and options (including fax/modem and >>>> something >>>> called "extended sensing") and they run from US $32 to $35; Smart >>>> Strip >>>> claims it will pay for itself in as little as six weeks, >>>> Anyone tried one of these, and your opinion please >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> Scott Howell >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>> >>> >>> >>> To listen to the show archives go to link >>> http://acbradio.org/handyman.html >>> or >>> ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ >>> >>> The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. >>> http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday >>> >>> Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From >> Various >>> List Members At The Following address: >>> http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ >>> >>> Visit the archives page at the following address >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>> >>> If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the >> following >>> address for more information: >>> http://www.jaws-users.com/ >>> For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind >> Handy Man >>> list just send a blank message to: >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Yahoo! 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