you make a lot of sense as always good sir. Thank you for my continuing education.
On Sat, 19 Jan 2008, Dale Leavens wrote: > Not sure how you read it but any of the washers I have been into don't have a > shut-off valve between the tub and the drain hose. If you pull the hose out > of the drain or unhook it from the edge of the sink it pumps into and drop it > on the floor while the machine has water in it you will find the water drains > out. This is convenient when a pump dies because you can drain the water out > of the machine without bailing it but, if you don't instal the drain at a > level higher than your water level in the machine the machine, when on will > continuously try to fill as the water runs out the drain hose. > > Some machines, maybe all these days continuously run the pump recirculating > the water often through a lint trap. In that case they have a valve which > directs the pump water through the tub or out the drain. I suppose others > only engage the pump to push the water out of the machine I can't remember if > I have ever seen that sort of arrangement. > > The instructions for installation on any of the machines I have owned include > the instruction to keep the hose drain height at some specified height, I > think 30 inches but I don't remember for certain. If the drain doesn't > achieve at least that height before dropping the machine will self drain. > > I suppose if the hose is long enough before that drop to hold a tub full of > water then it would simply fill the hose then refill the machine from the > hose when the pump turned off. Similarly, if the hose run was continuous > falling beyond the level of the tub, once the drain hose was full it would > actually suck the water out of the machine. Usually you want an air space > where the hose fits into the drain or have it fall into something open to the > air like a sink exactly to prevent that siphon problem. > > Front loading machines may be a little different and I noticed in England > recently there are more of those being built into kitchen cabinets, they > probably have a more direct connection to the drain and probably a check > valve just after the pump so the column of water can hold it closed and keep > sewer gasses returning. Usually in England too the drains don't directly > connect to the sewer in the same way they do here, they drop into a sort of > basin so that there is again an air connection. This too may be changing by > now and I don't know what they do in those huge tower blocks where the volume > must be huge but even fairly modern housing has a grill along one edge of the > building and the tail of a drain over it. I suppose they must do something > different where there is plumbing in a basement I never observed that. Maybe > David could comment on that. > > > > Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Skype DaleLeavens > Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [email protected] > Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 4:42 AM > Subject: [BlindHandyMan] : tangential to: Very Upset Here! > > > Dale, by what you wrote here, it makes me think that the pump for draining > a washer isn not a shut off. > I'm surprised by that,Did I read you incorrectly? > No offense intended. > > On Sat, 19 Jan 2008, Dale Leavens wrote: > block > > If you run a drain hose into a floor drain, the furnace room or any other > drain you will need to make sure that there is a high point about the height > of the washing machine, 36 inches. Otherwise, the washer will drain by syphon > action while you are trying to wash and before the pump comes on to drain the > machine.Just bear that in mind. > > > block end > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >
