You may not need to take down the entire ceiling, using PEX you might be able 
to reroute the plumbing and connect it into the existing work in the ceiling 
depending on things like the direction of the joists and how far you have to 
move.

Watch too that the wall isn't a load bearing wall or you will be lowering the 
second floor. Alternatively, you may be installing a good heavy beam which may 
leave room for the existing plumbing to rise.

I am fairly sure you have already considered these things but just in case!!!

Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
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Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat.


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Dan Rossi 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 12:40 PM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] The great kitchen dream project.


  Victor,

  Yeah, sure, come on down. I have a large hole in the yard that you might 
  fill well. *GRIN* If you tried to harness Teresa, I'm sure at least some 
  parts of you would make it into the hole. *GRIN*

  Lenny, Teresa is right, of course. *GRIN* I have a grand plan for the 
  kitchen and dining room, unfortunately, it really does require a lot of 
  work and money to make it happen the way I want it to happen.

  Here's the deal. The kitchen and dining room are separated by a wall with 
  a doorway through it. I would love to rip down the wall and open it into 
  an eat-in kitchen kind of area. One problem is that one end of that wall 
  is the wet wall, where all the water, heating pipes, and drainlines run 
  from the basement to the second floor. My grand plan has me re-routing 
  those pipes a bit. That requires ripping down the kitchen ceiling.

  Since we added the deck, we now have a secondary exit from the house via 
  the deck which means we can brick up the back door that is in the kitchen 
  and put a window there and get some more wall space for cabinets and such.

  If we are going to re-arrange the cabinets, we should probably get new 
  models that will fit better with the new kitchen design.

  We are already looking at a new fridge since ours is 30 years old and 
  falling apart. We also want a new stove since we have one of those 
  apartment sized 20 inch wide models. We need to move the cabinets in 
  order to fit a new stove in.

  The long and the short of it is that this is actually a huge project and 
  will eventually cost something like 30 grand or more to pull off.

  One step will be taken this summer when I have the back door bricked up 
  and I put in a window. I can then turn the cabinets and rerun the kitchen 
  sink plumbing. This will be a relatively easy project and will set the 
  stage for more work down the road.

  -- 
  Blue skies.
  Dan Rossi
  Carnegie Mellon University.
  E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Tel: (412) 268-9081


   

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