Did I once hear that coke removes rust on this list?
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From: "carl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 4:03 AM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Rust and rust prevention


> yes thanks for this info but this does'nt tel me how to remove the rust 
> from my tools after my work shop rough leacking
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: Ray Boyce
>  To: [email protected]
>  Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 2:02 AM
>  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Rust and rust prevention
>
>
>  Rust. It's a small word that can cause so much grief. Rusted bolts on a
>  vehicle can make them difficult to repair, which adds to the cost of any
>  repair
>  work. Rusted sheet metal looks unsightly and devalues the vehicle. Let 
> the
>  rust get out of hand, and body panels can become rusted completely 
> through,
>  possibly causing structural failures or allowing exhaust fumes into the
>  passenger compartment. This is extremely hazardous and in most areas of 
> the
>  country,
>  can cause the vehicle to be certified unsafe to be driven. The 
> hard-earned
>  money you spent on that automobile just became almost worthless. So how 
> do
>  we
>  prevent our vehicles from rusting?
>
>  Automobile manufacturers have been helping. Almost all metal body panels
>  with the exception of roof panels on newer vehicles are galvanized. This
>  zinc coating
>  helps protect the metal from rusting, although it won't totally prevent 
> it.
>  Exterior trim and badges are often glued to the body rather than bolted 
> in
>  place so there are no holes in the body with chipped paint edges to allow
>  rust to start. More durable seam sealers are used during assembly, and 
> most
>  vehicle
>  manufacturers use electrostatic charges to attract primer paints into
>  difficult to access body areas so that the complete body receives a
>  protective coating
>  during the assembly process. Even with all this attention to preventing
>  rust, mother nature still takes her toll and you see rusty vehicles on 
> the
>  road.
>
>  Rust is a chemical reaction between iron molecules in the steel panels 
> and
>  oxygen. Add some moisture and/or heat and the chemical reaction occurs 
> much
>  faster.
>  During the rusting process, a very small electrical current is generated,
>  similar to the chemical reaction that takes place inside a battery, but 
> with
>  a much smaller charge. Hook up a sensitive voltmeter to a rusting panel 
> in
>  contact with salt water (salt accelerates the rusting process) and you 
> can
>  actually
>  see the electrical potential generated.
>
>  Coating the body so that oxygen and moisture can't get at the metal is 
> one
>  method of reducing rusting - that's what paint, undercoatings and waxy 
> rust
>  prevention
>  coatings do, but coatings aren't perfect. Scratches or stone chips in any
>  coating will expose the metal. Rust occurs at the molecular level, so 
> even
>  the
>  smallest mark can let rust start and it will continue to grow under the
>  coating. I have seen large chunks of paint fall off badly rusted cars, 
> where
>  the
>  paint looked pretty good but the metal was eaten almost entirely away.
>
>  Another way of reducing rust is to fight it electrically. Remember how 
> rust
>  creates electrical power? What if we could reverse the power? That's the
>  concept
>  behind electronic rust prevention systems. This system uses capacitance 
> by
>  attaching plates to the body to create a negative charge on the vehicle's
>  body.
>  The negative charge counteracts the electrical charge of the rusting 
> action,
>  slowing rust formation.
>
>  Other systems use cathodic protection, which is the real name of the
>  technique these companies are trying to sell. This method of using a
>  sacrificial cathode
>  has been used with success to protect against corrosion on many 
> structures
>  and systems including sea-going ships, buried pipelines, and even 
> reinforced
>  concrete. The system produces a reverse charge in the component or 
> structure
>  to slow or prevent the rust action from taking place on the body and use 
> up
>  the cathode material instead. There's a catch however.
>
>  To create an electrical current, there must be a complete electrical
>  circuit. In boats, the water forms one part of the circuit. In buildings,
>  the ground
>  forms one part of the circuit. Cars however, are not immersed in water or
>  buried in the ground. If there was a good return path through water or 
> dirt,
>  this concept might work, but it doesn't have one. Another problem is that 
> to
>  create a charge over the complete vehicle body, the electronic rust
>  prevention
>  systems would have to use enough electricity from the vehicle's battery 
> that
>  it would keep draining the battery so your vehicle wouldn't start.
>
>  Would I recommend electronic rust prevention? No. I would save my money 
> and
>  apply it to keeping the vehicle clean. Rust occurs mostly where dirt and
>  debris
>  collect in recesses in the vehicle body. This area dries out slowly, so 
> rust
>  has a prime environment to occur. Wash under the vehicle thoroughly, 
> inside
>  front fenders and along trim to flush dirt out of corners. A clean 
> vehicle
>  dries quicker and dry vehicles rust very slowly.
>
>
>
>
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