i'v just had some one look at my rough it is a wooden rough with felting over 
the top 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Ray Boyce 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 7:27 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Rust and rust prevention


  Hi Carl
  Just replace the roof sheets which are leaking.
  Then no more water can come in to rust your tools.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "carl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  To: <[email protected]>
  Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 11:03 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Rust and rust prevention

  > yes thanks for this info but this does'nt tel me how to remove the rust 
  > from my tools after my work shop rough leacking
  > ----- Original Message ----- 
  > From: Ray Boyce
  > To: [email protected]
  > Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 2:02 AM
  > Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Rust and rust prevention
  >
  >
  > Rust. It's a small word that can cause so much grief. Rusted bolts on a
  > vehicle can make them difficult to repair, which adds to the cost of any
  > repair
  > work. Rusted sheet metal looks unsightly and devalues the vehicle. Let 
  > the
  > rust get out of hand, and body panels can become rusted completely 
  > through,
  > possibly causing structural failures or allowing exhaust fumes into the
  > passenger compartment. This is extremely hazardous and in most areas of 
  > the
  > country,
  > can cause the vehicle to be certified unsafe to be driven. The 
  > hard-earned
  > money you spent on that automobile just became almost worthless. So how 
  > do
  > we
  > prevent our vehicles from rusting?
  >
  > Automobile manufacturers have been helping. Almost all metal body panels
  > with the exception of roof panels on newer vehicles are galvanized. This
  > zinc coating
  > helps protect the metal from rusting, although it won't totally prevent 
  > it.
  > Exterior trim and badges are often glued to the body rather than bolted 
  > in
  > place so there are no holes in the body with chipped paint edges to allow
  > rust to start. More durable seam sealers are used during assembly, and 
  > most
  > vehicle
  > manufacturers use electrostatic charges to attract primer paints into
  > difficult to access body areas so that the complete body receives a
  > protective coating
  > during the assembly process. Even with all this attention to preventing
  > rust, mother nature still takes her toll and you see rusty vehicles on 
  > the
  > road.
  >
  > Rust is a chemical reaction between iron molecules in the steel panels 
  > and
  > oxygen. Add some moisture and/or heat and the chemical reaction occurs 
  > much
  > faster.
  > During the rusting process, a very small electrical current is generated,
  > similar to the chemical reaction that takes place inside a battery, but 
  > with
  > a much smaller charge. Hook up a sensitive voltmeter to a rusting panel 
  > in
  > contact with salt water (salt accelerates the rusting process) and you 
  > can
  > actually
  > see the electrical potential generated.
  >
  > Coating the body so that oxygen and moisture can't get at the metal is 
  > one
  > method of reducing rusting - that's what paint, undercoatings and waxy 
  > rust
  > prevention
  > coatings do, but coatings aren't perfect. Scratches or stone chips in any
  > coating will expose the metal. Rust occurs at the molecular level, so 
  > even
  > the
  > smallest mark can let rust start and it will continue to grow under the
  > coating. I have seen large chunks of paint fall off badly rusted cars, 
  > where
  > the
  > paint looked pretty good but the metal was eaten almost entirely away.
  >
  > Another way of reducing rust is to fight it electrically. Remember how 
  > rust
  > creates electrical power? What if we could reverse the power? That's the
  > concept
  > behind electronic rust prevention systems. This system uses capacitance 
  > by
  > attaching plates to the body to create a negative charge on the vehicle's
  > body.
  > The negative charge counteracts the electrical charge of the rusting 
  > action,
  > slowing rust formation.
  >
  > Other systems use cathodic protection, which is the real name of the
  > technique these companies are trying to sell. This method of using a
  > sacrificial cathode
  > has been used with success to protect against corrosion on many 
  > structures
  > and systems including sea-going ships, buried pipelines, and even 
  > reinforced
  > concrete. The system produces a reverse charge in the component or 
  > structure
  > to slow or prevent the rust action from taking place on the body and use 
  > up
  > the cathode material instead. There's a catch however.
  >
  > To create an electrical current, there must be a complete electrical
  > circuit. In boats, the water forms one part of the circuit. In buildings,
  > the ground
  > forms one part of the circuit. Cars however, are not immersed in water or
  > buried in the ground. If there was a good return path through water or 
  > dirt,
  > this concept might work, but it doesn't have one. Another problem is that 
  > to
  > create a charge over the complete vehicle body, the electronic rust
  > prevention
  > systems would have to use enough electricity from the vehicle's battery 
  > that
  > it would keep draining the battery so your vehicle wouldn't start.
  >
  > Would I recommend electronic rust prevention? No. I would save my money 
  > and
  > apply it to keeping the vehicle clean. Rust occurs mostly where dirt and
  > debris
  > collect in recesses in the vehicle body. This area dries out slowly, so 
  > rust
  > has a prime environment to occur. Wash under the vehicle thoroughly, 
  > inside
  > front fenders and along trim to flush dirt out of corners. A clean 
  > vehicle
  > dries quicker and dry vehicles rust very slowly.
  >
  >
  >
  >
  >
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  >
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