Agreed, I use slipit. It is designed for saw blades, router bits and saw tops. It will not inhibit the wood from taking a stain.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Kennedy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 8:56 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Cleaning Rust Off, a Cast Iron Table Saw I'm with you. The whole problem being rust it doesn't make sense to use something liquid because it is going to promote more rust. I have used the furniture paste wax before on my saw but I still prefer good old automotive wax. It doesn't all have silicone in it, and it is designed to coat and protect metal not wood. Just buff it off well with an old towel and you'll be able to feel the places you missed. And the wood will slide real easy when you get it right. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mytrombona To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 8:14 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Cleaning Rust Off, a Cast Iron Table Saw Coke syrup? Not! And anyway, I think it was supposed to be diet coke that did the trick. In any case, not a good idea. In removing rust, what you want to do is loosen the bonds that bind all those little iron oxide particles to the metal and to each other. That's why a penetrating oil or similar substance is advisable. You don't want to apply something acid to the surface. That might remove the rust, but it will in turn, react with the metal to cause further rust. In o9ther words, rust removal is more of a physical process than it is a chemical one. Jay ----- Original Message ----- From: Max Robinson To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 8:02 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Cleaning Rust Off, a Cast Iron Table Saw I'm pretty sure all that stuff about Coke is urban legend. Regards. Max. K 4 O D S. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transistor site http://www.funwithtransistors.net Vacuum tube site: http://www.funwithtubes.net Music site: http://www.maxsmusicplace.com To subscribe to the fun with tubes group send an email to, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Boyce, Ray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 4:55 PM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Cleaning Rust Off, a Cast Iron Table Saw > Hi Cy > Yes use what ever you have handy, has anyone use Coke to clean rust off > cast iron. > How did it work are you happy with the results. > > Ray > > ________________________________ > > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cy Selfridge > Sent: Monday, 21 April 2008 07:47 > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Cleaning Rust Off, a Cast Iron Table Saw > > > > Ray, > What about Coke syrup? It is supposed to be good for almost anything. > Also I thought CLR was supposed to be good for rust. > Cy, the Ancient oKie... > > _____ > > From: [email protected] > <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> > [mailto:[email protected] > <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> ] > On Behalf Of Ray Boyce > Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 5:42 PM > To: [email protected] > <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> > Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Cleaning Rust Off, a Cast Iron Table Saw > > I have a cast-iron table saw that hasn't been used for a few years, and > has > accumulated a pretty substantial amount of rust on the table. How can I > remove the rust and keep it from coming back? > > Well, there are about as many answers to that question as there are > woodworkers who have faced the problem. Cast iron tables are great for > their > weight and durability, but they're quite susceptible to rust, > particularly > in high-humidity climates. > > The first step is assess the situation. If the rust is relatively light > and > superficial, it won't take much to clean up the problem. However, if the > rust has been accumulating for a number of years and appears to be > substantial and deep, the saw's table is probably too damaged to return > it > to its former glory, so to speak. That being said, the saw should still > be > usable - it just may not be as smooth and precise of a surface as when > it > was new. > > First of all, resist the urge to go after your saw table with sandpaper. > Instead, try a Scotchbrite or similar synthetic kitchen scrubbing pad > (not > steel wool) with some mineral oil as lubricant. You want to use a > sufficient > amount of mineral oil, but don't go to excess, as you'll have to wipe > off > the oil when the scrubbing is done. > > I've heard of people using WD-40 instead of mineral oil, which should > work > fine, although it will evaporate more quickly than mineral oil. Should > you > choose to use the WD-40, apply it often and to the entire saw table to > keep > it lubricated until you've finished scrubbing. > > For heavier rust, you may be able to use your random > <HYPERLINK > "http://woodworking.about.com/od/handpowertools/p/OrbitalSander.htm > <http://woodworking.about.com/od/handpowertools/p/OrbitalSander.htm> > "http://w > oodworking.-about.com/-od/handpowertool-s/p/OrbitalSande-r.htm> > orbital sander to help with the scrubbing. Place the base of the sander > on > top of the scrubbing pad and get to work. > > A completely different idea that has some merit for extremely rusted > cast > iron tables is to use naval jelly. You'll need to follow the > instructions on > the naval jelly to the letter, particularly when it comes to removal, so > as > to avoid pitting the cast iron. Naval jelly is quite aggressive for rust > removal, but it needs to be removed properly to stop the cleaning > action. > > Once the rust is removed, you'll want to take steps to ensure that the > rust > won't return. There are a number of commercial products that not only > protect the table from rust, but also lubricate the table to make the > stock > slide better when cutting. T-9 and Slipit are popular choices, typically > available online or at your fine woodworking supplier. > > Paste waxes also work well for protecting and lubricating, but avoid the > temptation to use car paste waxes. These formulations typically contain > silicone, which will plug up wood pores and cause issues with finishing > your > stock. Instead, try some Johnson's Paste Wax (which is typically > formulated > for floors). Apply liberally, wait until it is nearly dry and then wipe > the > table down to remove any excess. > > One final note. It may be an old wives' tale, but one that I tend to > believe: plain old distilled vinegar can act as a rust inhibitor. After > the > majority of the rust is removed using your method of choice above, wipe > down > the entire table with a liberal amount of vinegar. Allow it to dry and > then > apply your final protectant/lubrican-t. 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