The house was built in 81.  I was thinking the same thing about the clay and am 
glad you brought this up.  I think we need to go wider rather than deeper, but 
we also have to worry about the phone and cable lines that are coming in on 
either side of this area.


Jennifer
----- Original Message ----- 
  From: lenny McHugh 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 3:29 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] I am back and have a sewer line problem.


  Hi Jennifer, How old is your home? If it is not that old and you are in hard 
  packed clay that is probably not the spot where the line is located.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "Jennifer Jackson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  To: <[email protected]>
  Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 1:52 PM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] I am back and have a sewer line problem.

  Hey Guys,

  Please do not take this badly, :) but I am back because of a desperate 
  problem that I know you all can help me with. Even if that help is have a 
  drink and call the plumber. :) I noticed some new names in the digest, so I 
  will take just a moment to introduce myself and then get right to my sewer 
  problem.

  I am Jennifer and I live in Oklahoma with my three young sons and my 
  husband. I am not very handy, but have learned so much from this list in 
  the past and gained a lot of confidence about what I can do myself.

  Ok, here we go with the sewer line. I have a partial block. Enough of a 
  block that my washing machine and dishwasher back up and send water over 
  flowing out of the half bath there by the laundry room. As you can imagine 
  this does not make me very happy, though my floors are looking extra clean 
  these days from the bleach water and other detergents. :) We tried some 
  nasty chemicals and the snake on the line and no luck. It turns out that we 
  do not have a ground level clean out for the plumbers to use so our home 
  warranty is not going to cover this either.

  So now we are trying to install the ground level clean out, but we can not 
  find the sewer line. We have a clean out just outside the kitchen sink on 
  the wall of the house and the plumber said that most likely our sewer line 
  will run straight out from there. There is about ten feet of concrete 
  between the house and the yard though and we have been told that may mean it 
  is as much as four to six feet deep that far out. We had the electric and 
  what not lines marked and have a pretty narrow window to dig in to find this 
  stupid line. We are now just over four and a half feet down and into hard 
  packed clay. Should we try widening the trench before we go deeper? Any 
  other tips or suggestions?

  Jennifer

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