so again we see and hear about the trickle down affect and effect of oil and other prices. so glad I had my roof done last year and I was complaining about $28 per square on a 25 year roof. as for steel siding . I wanted to do that on my first very big old house and my father in law talked me out of it because he noted in case of a fire that the steel would hold in the heat with a fire in the big ole house. guessing I should count my blessings and zip it for the costs that go up up and up. Now one more comment, and that would be if you need somehelp tipping a couple back while carrying shingles up the ladder on the fourth. I'm only a train ride away. to bad you did not have access to a front end or bucket loader to slide those shingles up on the roof. Lee
On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 06:43:32AM -0500, Michael Baldwin wrote: > Lee, > didn't think of that one. the insurance company says I got to put the same > steel siding back on, and that stuff is running $135 to $160 a square. Well > not the same damage siding, but steel siding to replace steel siding.The > steel installs similar to vinyl, the way it locks together, and nails up. > Steel has been going up in price to. To bad i do not have a recycler close > by that would pay per pound for the steel I have to take off. > > ordered my roofing material yesterday. Do you know how hard it is to find > 25 year 3 tab shingles out here. The rep at the lumber yard said some > companies are cutting back on the colors they sell, and the price changes so > much, they don't keep much in stock. he said the price would be going up to > $56 a square with the next shipment they get, so i am glad I got mine at $46 > per square. A few of the local lumber yards are already at $56 per square. > > Should show up on the 1st of July. So my Fourth will be spent roofing, > siding, and drinking beer. > Michael > > > > _____ > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Lee A. Stone > Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 5:38 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Siding > > > > > Michael, It might not do anything but might I suggest you contact your > State Senate and or Assembly representative as well as your State > Insurance office regards the rate insurance companies are not keeping > up with? at least you did not get hit with a statement" you are not > covered because this is an " act of God." when buying insurance coverage > always ask what it will cost for the very best of coverage and often it > is not that more. not that it will help you in your case at this time. > also a call to your representative in Congress to let them know what > rising oils rates are doing to the homeowner such as yourself. Lee > > On > Thu, Jun 19, > 2008 at 09:13:43AM -0500, Michael Baldwin wrote: > > Well, I do have the time, and not the money. The insurance company figures > > out what it should cost to replace, an that is what they pay for, minus my > > deductible, and quotes have been coming in much higher then the insurance > > figures. I am guessing that is the case because vinyl siding, and asphalt > > shingles all use some oil products in the manufacturing process. The > > insurance companies aren't keeping up with the market rates of the > products. > > Good 25 year 3 tab shingles are going for $50 a square now, when they were > > only about $30 a square not to long ago. On a 20 square roof, like mine, > > that is a difference of $400. That does not include the 15 lb roofing felt > > either. Vinyl siding, which was about $25 a square on sale not long ago, > is > > now on sale for $45 a square. I don't want vinyl, but if that is what I > can > > afford,then that is what I will get. > > Thanks, > > Michael > > > > > > _____ > > > > From: blindhandyman@ <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> > yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandyman@ > <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com] > > On Behalf Of Dale Leavens > > Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 5:20 PM > > To: blindhandyman@ <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> > yahoogroups.com > > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Siding > > > > > > > > I resided this house 17 or 18 years ago. It is a two story building 32 by > 36 > > feet. I used what is called Canex, it is really a pressed paper with a > hard > > surface formed to look like aged painted wood. The boards are 12 feet long > > and 8 inches wide, quite heavy. I used a similar product, a little > different > > design for vertical siding on the gable ends and aluminum soffit and > fascia. > > > > The trick is to measure each corner from the under side of where the > soffet > > will go down and dividing that evenly by the virtual width of the boards > to > > locate the height of the bottom mounting member what ever that is and > > depending on the system. Then you need to get the bottom member that the > > siding hangs on straight from one corner to the other. > > > > Once that is done it is just a matter of laying each course and nailing it > > into place until you hit a door or a window. The next trick is to cut out > > when you hit the bottom or top of window openings or the top of door > > openings or other penetrations like vents. > > > > Various siding systems use different trim materials. Many use 'J' mold > > around window and door frames which you apply before you start the siding. > > Some use corner caps which are also applied first. Some corner caps are > > under-cut to hide the ends of the siding, others are designed to but up > > tight. > > > > Most applications you will apply a drip cap over windows and doors but you > > probably don't have to remove that. > > > > Frankly though, if the insurance is willing to pay a contractor that is > the > > way I would go. They will come in with scaffolding, tarps to cover > plantings > > and a skip to collect the debris and they will be in and out of there in a > > couple of days. You will be renting all that stuff for a long time without > a > > crew and even paying demurrage on the skip or dumpster will cost you a lot > > more because it will take you days to strip shingles, collect them up and > > load them into the skip. A crew will strip the building in a couple of > days > > and have it all picked up. They will have their own arrangements to get > > scaffolding to and from the site and so on and the contractor is protected > > by insurance and Worker's compensation, you are not. > > > > I did it because I was paying for it and I had the time but not the money. > > This isn't your situation. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Michael Baldwin > > To: blindhandyman@ <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> > yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 9:24 AM > > Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Siding > > > > Hi, > > Has anyone on here sided their house? Baseball sized hail caused the > > insurance company to total my siding and roof, and I can't believe what > > these dorks want to charge to do the work. And my insurance agent don't > > care if I do it, as long as it is done. I want to use the Fiber Cement > > siding. I have done some roofing before, and helped on large house > reroofs, > > but not done one this big myself, but roofing isn't that hard, just don't' > > fall off the roof, LOL. > > Puts my other remodel on the back burner though until this stuff is done. > > Michael > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG. > > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.0/1507 - Release Date: 6/18/2008 > > 7:09 AM > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > -- > "If you lived today as if it were your last, you'd buy up a box of rockets > and > fire them all off, wouldn't you?" > -- Garrison Keillor > Come and chat with me at #quietzone on irc.newnet.net > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > -- "If you lived today as if it were your last, you'd buy up a box of rockets and fire them all off, wouldn't you?" -- Garrison Keillor Come and chat with me at #quietzone on irc.newnet.net
