Well, everything took a rapid turn for the worse yesterday when, while 
beginning to work on the bolt for the day, I slipped or something and the large 
porcelain tank top hit the floor and shattered.  Somewhat dispirited, I ceased 
work for the day (unless you count a couple of desultory  tries at the nut and 
bolt spaced over several hours.)  I'll will have to look into replacement tank 
covers vs. a whole new toilet before I put much more effort into the 
bolt-removal.  
I had a little  bit of cognac left from who knows when and soothed my spirits 
at the end of the day with a small glass of same.  
Ron Denis 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Bob Kennedy 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 9:44 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] the nut with a bolt problems


  You can get them at any hardware store. They are basically a plastic frame 
with a set screw or large thumb wheel that pinches the blade in place. You hold 
one end and the blade can stick out from very short to fairly long. The neat 
feature is it's just like a little saw where the blade is sticking out and 
there is no frame to get in the way. I don't recommend it for cutting heavy 
steel or large hardened bolts. But I've used mine on the tank screws and it 
works great. 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: rs_denis 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 9:03 AM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] the nut with a bolt problems

  Bob, I've never heard of the mini-hax saw. I'll add this to the list of 
things I have to check out. I knew the washers would have to be replaced as it 
was their deterioration that led to this problem in the first place. Ron Denis 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Bob Kennedy 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 9:32 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] the nut with a bolt problems

  I've run across your problem many times before. Keep in mind the washers are 
rubber. Spraying them with petroleum based sprays will mean you have to replace 
them anyway. 

  My cure for this is to get one of those "mini hack saws." You can adjust the 
length of blade that sticks out and there is no frame to bang on anything. A 
good coarse blade will cut right through the screws in a fairly short time. You 
may have to hold the screws from the under side to keep them from turning. 
Fortunately these aren't hardened bolts and they will give up with a minimum of 
cussing and carrying on. 

  When you put the new screws in consider picking up a small can of silicone 
grease. You can coat the threads and both sides of the rubber washer to help 
with future leaks and corrosion of the screws. 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: rs_denis 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 9:01 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] the nut with a bolt problems

  John, the liquid wrench I tried after the WD40 is a kind of penetrating oil 
isn't it? Anyway, hope to acquire some PB-blaster and at Rob's advice some Bowl 
Works and we'll see how far that gets us. I suspect after that, I'll have to 
resort to the plumber because I'll run out of extra storage space for the 
chemicals <grin.> 
  Ron Denis

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