Hi Bob, Well it is changed. It would have been worth the shop price to have them do it. It only took 9 hours to do the work and it is not done correctly. First it took an hour to get the wheel off. I could not break one lug nut. We then took it to a friend who was going to help. He could not get it off with his impact wrench. No way to break it with a four way. Then put a4 or 5 foot piece of pipe and still could not break it until he stood on it. We then went to get the ten millimeter socket and guess what? no nuts. The inside plastic was fastened with plastic fasteners which required a special tool for removal. It took an hour to locate a store that had one and he had to drive about 20 miles to get the tool. While he went for the tool I started draining the antifreeze. After the plastic was removed tried to get the 1/2" ratchet but there was not enough clearance. Started calling part stores to see if they had the special tool. A few had the $60 one and the place 20 miles away had one for under $20. Whenever I changed antifreeze I always thought it a good idea to also change the thermostat. I removed the top housing and I could not get the thermostat out. After we got the belt and everything together we started playing with the thermostat after about 45 minutes we got it out by tapping from the back. It took another hour seating the new one in place. When I started refilling it did not take near enough antifreeze. Then I realized my mistake. I only drained from the petcock instead of removing the bottom radiator hose. I now have a mixture of about half new and half old. The dealer gave Karen a price quote of $120 to change the antifreeze. Should have paid it. Just the antifreeze was $55. Although I did good in the fact that I went through the whole day without swearing and one pony 7 oz bottle of beer. Lenny I think I told you it has been a long time since I had grease under my nails. It is going to be a very long time before I tackle anything again. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Kennedy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 10:30 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] changing fan belt
Well since most shops are getting $75 an hour or better I'd sure give it a whirl. The easiest way to work on that engine is to take the front passenger side tire off. Inside the fender well you'll find a series of 10 millimeter bolts holding the splash guard in place. Only take off the plastic that runs vertically. Once this is out of the way you'll see the crankshaft pulley and a good bit of the belt. There shouldn't be any bolts to loosen. There will be a pulley on the end of an arm with a large spring putting tension on the arm and pulley. From time to time they change the driver on it. So it could be a 15 or 18 millimeter hex head welded to the tension arm. It could also be a 3/8 or 1/2 square drive that you can fit a ratchet or breaker bar into. When you find the driver just apply a lot of force in the direction that takes the pulley away from the belt. This will take a bit of muscle to overcome the spring tension. The trick is holding the pulley away while you remove the belt with your other hand. The first time I saw this type of belt I thought you had to have an engineering degree to replace it. Just remember the back side, which is the smooth side of the belt goes against the smooth side of the pulleys. You might see 2 or 3 with smooth pulleys. The tension pulley is one, the water pump might be another one. And there can be an idler pulley thrown in just to wonder what it does. You'll be able to loop the belt around the upper pulleys from the wheel well and do that first going back together. The pulleys on top will have 6 or 7 grooves across it and you want the belt all the way in those grooves. Then just keep working around making the crankshaft and tensioner pulleys last. You'll have to apply even more force to get the belt around the crank and under the tensioner pulleys. Once seated let the tension off and let your breath back out... Believe it or not putting the plastic back on may be more of a pain than all the rest. Finding those little holes for the screws to go back in is tough for my old fingers... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lenny McHugh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "handyman-blind" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 11:13 AM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] changing fan belt > Ok you car guys, I have a 2003 grand caravan sport 3.8 awd. The > serpentine > belt needs replacing. There is so much junk under that I can't even touch > the belt. I haven't really poked around to see what all has to be removed. > When I was looking at it a neighbor came over and told me that he can't > see > the belt from the top. 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