Thanks Tom, not what I wanted to hear, but at least I don't have to go buy a 
"ticker" or something that isn't going to work.


Bill Stephan 
Kansas Citty MO 
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Phone: (816)803-2469


----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Fowle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thursday, July 31, 2008 4:34 pm
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] A possible mobility aid
> bill, 
> Even as a cane user, I recognize this problem, especially as there 
> is little 
> consistancy in where they put the stupid buttons. 
> 
> There is actually no "current" flowing in the button till you push 
> it, only 
> a voltage present. 
> 
> the only devices I know of that will detect a voltage need to 
> be nearly against the wire before they find it.  so by the time 
> you get that 
> close you allready found it with your little blind haptors. 
> 
> Also, there are lots of other wires about with street lighting 
> etc. 
> to confuse any gizmo. 
> 
> Of course some of the accessible light systems have the button beep 
> all the time so you know it's there, but that doesn't help 
> where there isn't an accessible signal. 
> 
> So, after going through all this restatement of the problem, I can't 
> think of a way to find the particular pole with button, except 
> some kind of camera/computer based device such as a 
> cell phone with modified software.  Even then you'd have  to scan 
> the darned 
> thing every time you wondered if there might be a button. 
> 
> We actually have a group working on cell phone based software to 
> analyze/find weird cross walks, and try to figure out 
> unusual intersections, I'll put this problem in 
> there ear and see what they think. 
> 
> Don't hold your breath. 
> 
> P.S. I had fun once when talking to a traffic signal manufacturer 
> about accessible signals.  He was calling those things 
> pedestrian aids.  I said, no, they don't help me, they help the 
> cars cause 
> when I don't push the  button, the cars get more time.  In a world 
> thatwasn't biased against pedestrians, every body would get a fair 
> shake all the 
> time without having to find a stupid button and ask for it. 
> 
> Stopped the signal manufacturer in his tracks, He had to agree I 
> was 
> right. 
> 
> In conclusion, I don't see any way of finding the buttons with 
> currently 
> available technology. 
> 
> Sorry 
> Tom Fowle 
> 
> 
> 

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