Lee, interesting.  I was in Louisville last month for the ACB convention and 
didn't notice anything like that, but  I wasn't looking for it either.  Are you 
sure the guy didn't have a Trekker or some other personal GPS device?


Bill Stephan 
Kansas Citty MO 
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Phone: (816)803-2469


----- Original Message -----
From: "Lee A. Stone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Friday, August 1, 2008 7:52 am
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] A possible mobility aid
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> I cannot give you a electricians answer Bill but I can tell you  
> that 
> maybe find someone who lives  and or works in someplace like 
> Louisville 
> where they do have the talking signal button and one that  tells 
> you 
> what intersection you are at.  I wish I could remember the mans 
> name   
> but he was walking from work in Louisville with his guide dog and 
> I 
> could hear the street/ intersections  being announced and he said" 
> no 
> that is not mine" and they continued. then when it said something 
> like " 
> baker and stone". well at that  intersection I believe the man 
> pushed 
> the pole button  as you said you wanted to do Bill. I got that off 
> from 
> blind cool tech some time ago. Lee 
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> On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 03:10:27PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> wrote:> All: 
> > Hopefully Tom or one of you electrician types can answer this, 
> or laugh or whatever. 
> > I have a friend who occasionally sends me posts from one of the 
> O&M Lists he's on.  Yesterday he sent one dealing with the 
> necessity of always pressing the activation button on traffic 
> signals that cycle based on the presence of vehicles as opposed to 
> a fixed time increment.  
> > The problem is that at least here, there's no way to tell for 
> certain what actually causes a given traffic light or signal to 
> cycle.  So, presumably, the safest course would be to always press 
> a button when one was present (they usually are BTW).  
> > The difficulty is then, to find the buttons to press where 
> there's no audible signal, (which is of course generally the case. 
> > 
> > I work a dog, so naturally, the dog's going to treat a pole with 
> a button just the same as it would treat any other obstacle, and 
> avoid it.  I understand there are "sonic guide" type devices that 
> you could perhaps use that would beep or vibrate when they passed 
> a pole, but that would probably give too many hits, since it would 
> see trees, sign posts etc. as well as light poles.  Flailing 
> around with a cane or in my case, a whip antenna isn't really a 
> satisfactory way to do this either. 
> > Finally, I've been told there are devices which emit a sound 
> when they're locked on to an electrical current, presumably this 
> is because of the presence of a magnetic field.  Would it be 
> possible to modify such a device so that it would beep or vibrate 
> or whatever when it "saw" poles with electric current present 
> inside them? 
> > 
> > My thought is that you probably wouldn't carry something like 
> this around all the time, but it would be useful for finding poles 
> and then knowing where they are, I could certainly train my dog to 
> find them again. 
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> > Any thoughts? 
> > 
> > Bill Stephan 
> > Kansas Citty MO 
> > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Phone: (816)803-2469 
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> He's just a politician trying to save both his faces... 
> Come and chat with me at #quietzone on irc.newnet.net 
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