Dan, I am a wuss too.
The whol time, I'm thinking "60 lb bags for pete's sake!"
I had a "fixer upper" apartment set up. 3 rentals, and I got used to 
carrying 60 lb bags. Up 3 steps, cross the porch, down, 5, then down 5, 
turn the corner and go into the basement or garage.
I hefted an 80 onto my shoulder and thought I hadn't enough coffee that 
morning. i knew 
I had made a mistake when i got to the bottom of the "bouncing down the 
first set of 5 steps". That little string of muscle that goes along the 
collar bone, um, hurtin!
So 40 bags, you can't buy as much beer, but you have a deck upon which to 
rest.
Where's the fool?
Enjoy it!


On Tue, 12 Aug 2008, Dan Rossi wrote:

> Yes, I am a big wuss.  I am a balding, hairy backed, little girl in knee
> socks.
>
> Here is the deal.  I am finally going to build the landings and stairs for
> my deck.  There will be an upper landing at the level of the deck, and a
> lower landing with three steps leading down to the yard.  The lower
> landing will have steps going down from two adjacent sides.  The third
> side will obviously have the stairs going up to the upper landing.  and,
> the forth side will just have a railing along the edge.
>
> There will be two posts holding up the outer edge of the upper landing,
> and the inner edge will be bolted to the rim joist of the deck.  The lower
> landing will have four posts.
>
> I have to pour footers for each of these six posts.  Around here, rules
> are that footers have to be 36 inches deep.  Well, when I dug the footers
> for the deck, after 36 inches we were still bringing up top soil and a bit
> of gravel.  No clay, no big rocks, no sand and certainly no bedrock.  So,
> we put the extention bar on the power auger and went another 18 inches
> down.  We only just started hitting clay and rock at the 54 inch deep
> level.
>
> Those holes were 12 inches in diameter and they sucked up about 7 80 pound
> bags of cement each.
>
> These landing footers will only be 8 inches in diameter but will most
> likely still go 54 inches deep, plus a little above grade.  Each hole will
> take a bit more than 3 80 pound bags to fill, a total of about 20 80 pound
> bags.
>
> I'll will now describe where I live for those of you who haven't heard my
> rantings before.  For those of you who have, just ignore me as usual.
>
> From the street you have to walk up 10 steps, then there is a little 2
> foot landing.  Then you go up another 10 steps.  Then there is a 60 foot
> long landing.  Then up another 10 steps, 2 foot landing, 10 steps, 5 foot
> landing, three more steps.  OK, you are almost there.  You are now at one
> end of a courtyard.  I, of course, live at the far end of the courtyard.
> So, walk about 170 feet down the courtyard trying to stay on the sidewalk
> without kicking over the little mushroom lights or flowers along the
> edges.  Now turn left and go around the side of my house, through a gate,
> and into the yard.  Now imagine humping 80 pound bags of cement along
> that whole thing.
>
> Rather than do all 20 bags in one day, I decided we would do 4 bags per
> evening, each night of this week.
>
> When we got to Lowes last night, and were looking at the bags of concrete,
> I just couldn't face it.  I did not want to hump those 80 pound bags up
> all those damn stairs and along the courtyard.  So, I noticed that next to
> the 80 pound bags were these nice 40 pound bags of cement.  Sure, it would
> cost a bit more money, on the order of 20 or 25 bucks more, and require
> twice as many trips, but 40 pound trips are sooo much better than 80 pound
> trips.  I caved.  Yep, I admit it, I am a girly man.  I slung 8 40 pound
> bags onto the cart, loaded them into the trunk of our car, and since
> Teresa insists on helping, we unloaded the bags at home.  I ran the bags
> up to the long landing.  Teresa took them from there to the house.  She
> had the longer distance so I unloaded the bags faster than she could bring
> them up to the house, so I hauled them from the landing to the top of the
> stairs and she moved them from there to the house on a dolly.  It actually
> only took a few minutes, but was so much less painful than those 80
> pounders.  One night down, four more to go.
>
> Hopefully, we'll get the footers dug and poured this weekend.  I'll let
> the list know how it goes.
>
> -- 
> Blue skies.
> Dan Rossi
> Carnegie Mellon University.
> E-Mail:       [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Tel:  (412) 268-9081
>

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