Hi Dale,

Two grate posts!

I will keep this information till it cools off then when I get ready 
to tackle this project, I might contact you for a couple of 
questions, should they come up.

Again, thanks.
  At 10:37 PM 8/26/2008, you wrote:

>In the case of the basement I had a backhoe come in and dig right 
>down to the bottom of the footings, in this case about 7 feet deep 
>and probably a little better than two feet wide. I laid the weeping 
>tile in the bottom of the trench only a short distance from the side 
>of the footing then poured about a foot of crushed rock over the 
>lot. I then filled up to within a few inches grade with sand. Mostly 
>then I applied topsoil but again graded it away from the basement 
>walls even a slight slope is enough. In my case I fitted each end 
>into a 'T' which fitted into the town drain.
>
>We use what they refer to Weeping tile in a sock which is to say 
>that the pipe is wrapped in a light fabric tube. The trick is to 
>offer a path of least resistance to the water so it runs into the 
>drain and not through my basement walls.
>
>It depends on how much work you are willing to do and how tough you 
>are. I would probably be willing to dig a trench a couple of feet 
>deep and a foot and a half wide but it depends on how long and how 
>hard the soil is, you may need a pick to open it in which case a 
>backhoe and operator used to cost about 50 bucks an hour and they 
>can move a lot of dirt in an hour.
>
>You quite probably should call the utility people to mark any gas, 
>water and electric lines before you dig. Even by hand, you could 
>have a nasty experience. Of course it is possible to make a good 
>educated guess, I assume there were footings dug for your sun room 
>and that the electrical service isn't stuck to the outside of it.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Kevin Doucet
>To: <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>[email protected]
>Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 10:59 PM
>Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] need help with another water problem
>
>How far away of the footings of your basement are these trenches you
>dug? Also what would I need to dig a trench 1 and a half or two feet
>deep? And lastly, do I need to get the plumbing and electrician
>people out to mark problematic areas for digging a trench that deep?
>
>Thanks grate help so far.
>
>At 07:54 PM 8/26/2008, you wrote:
>
> >We arrange a drainage system like this around the outside of the
> >footings of our basements to carry any water which percolates down
> >the outside of the basement walls usually into storm drains or under
> >the footing and into a sump in the basement where a pump is
> >installed to pump the water up and away. It is often used around the
> >footings of slab construction too. You should also do what you can
> >to grade the surface ground away from the building.
> >
> >If the drain is a foot and a half or more below where traffic is
> >driving it should not be crushed.
> >
> >You might do as well just to excavate along the outside edge of the
> >building a little below the level of the floor and lay the weeping
> >tile in the bottom of the trench with a slope then backfill with
> >clean gravel and, depending on the elevations, the end of the tile
> >can be just left to dribble out onto the ground. make sure too that
> >your eaves troughs aren't adding to the water load.
> >
> >It is a little difficult without really thoroughly understanding the
> >ground but the principle is certainly sound.
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: Kevin Doucet
> >To: 
> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>[email protected]
> >Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 7:50 PM
> >Subject: [BlindHandyMan] need help with another water problem
> >
> > >When I moved in my current house I noticed dampness on the back wall
> > >of the garage. Later I realized when it rained really hard or
> > >persistently, water was standing behind the garage and moistening
> > >the wall. Well later, I had a 20 by 20 sun room build behind the
> > >garage. I assumed, wrongly, this would alleviate my water problem.
> > >Now when it rains hard or persistently, I get water in the end of
> > >the room at precisely the same location of the previous problem,
> > >only now it is along the rear of the room as well as along the side
> > >adjacent. So far I have not finished that room so the problem is not
> > >as bad as it could be.
> >
> >I blame this problem on the fact that because just behind my new room
> >is a rather steep grade of about 5 or 6 feet high. Now what I would
> >like to do is channel this water about 10 or 15 feet to the other
> >side of my driveway ware there is a ditch which would take the
> >offending water to the street drain.
> >
> >I considered digging a trench behind the room at the end ware the
> >problem is and over to the ditch at the other side of my drive,
> >placing some of the 4" perforated plastic drain pipe in this
> >ditch. Below is a bit of text I took from a guide to get rid of
> >standing water in a yard. Do you think this approach will work for my
> >situation and do you think I could allow vehicles to drive over this
> >berried pipe with out damage to the pipe?
> >
> >Getting rid of standing water in your yard.
> >
> >Firstbuy some 4" perforated plastic drain pipe. The best kind
> >for this purpose is the flexible kind that comes in 100'
> >rolls. This type of drain pipe has small slits all around the
> >pipe. These slits allow water to enter the pipe so it can be
> >carried away.
> >
> >Just dig a trench from the center of the low area you are
> >trying to drain, to the point that you intend to drain it to.
> >Using a simple line level you can set up a string over top of
> >the trench to make sure that your pipe runs down hill all the
> >way. A line level is a very small level that is designed to
> >attach to a string. Any hardware stores sells them for just a
> >couple of dollars. Set the string up so it is level, then
> >measure from the string to the bottom of your trench to make
> >sure you have constant fall. You should have 6" fall for every
> >100' of pipe.
> >
> >The highest point is going to be the area that you are trying
> >to drain, so you only want your pipe deep enough at this point
> >so it can be covered with soil. Once the trench is dug just
> >lay the pipe in. At the highest end of the pipe you'll need to
> >insert a strainer into the end of the pipe to keep soil from
> >entering the pipe.
> >
> >Cover the pipe with some washed stone, and then backfill the
> >trench with soil. The washed stone creates a void around the
> >pipe so that the water can find it's way into the pipe. Washed
> >stone is usually inexpensive stone that has been washed so it
> >is clean and free of mud. The only part of the pipe that needs
> >to be exposed is the low end, where the water exits the pipe.
> >Do not put a strainer in that end.
> >
> >Thanks.
> >
> >Kevin Doucet
> ><mailto:contactme%40kevindoucet.com><mailto:contactme%40kevindoucet 
> .com>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >confuse as says
> >
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> >
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> >
> >
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> >8/21/2008 6:54 PM
>
>Thanks.
>
>Kevin Doucet
><mailto:contactme%40kevindoucet.com>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>confuse as says
>
>Blind man with unmarked forehead has large belly!
>
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>
>Internal Virus Database is out of date.
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>8/21/2008 6:54 PM

Thanks.



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