I think that Bill's tightwad neighbour will find that she is saving nothing, 
and, indeed, her
resetting of the thermostat may be counterproductive.
When the house is empty, so hot water is not being drawn off, the cylinder, if 
properly insulated,
will lose, relatively, little heat, so the thermostat will not have to switch 
on very often.
However, if it is reset to a lower temperature: when the woman comes home and 
resets it to the
higher temperature, the element will have to be on for a much longer time than 
it would have been if
left to merely maintain the desired temperature of an occupied house.

          Jewel





----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Stephan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 8:53 AM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] electrical power uses cut


I guess ultimately, like most things, it comes down to how much we value the 
time it takes to save
some money.  I know a real tight wad woman who changes the thermostat on her 
hot water heater every
day when she leaves for work.  I guess you might be able to measure savings on 
something like hot
water where presumably usage is pretty constant, but electricity would be 
tough, since you'd likely
have to adjust for different temperatures etc.  I'm curious also about what 
happens to a circuit
breaker, if anything, if you flip it on and off one or two times a dayy.




Bill Stephan,
Kansas City MO
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone: (816)803-2469

-original message-
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] electrical power uses cut
From: Betsy Whitney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 10/24/2008 14:33

Scott,
I totally support this topic. I just had someone look at our washer
and dryer and there are no lights or displays that are lit when it
isn't in use. I do know that if the dryer door isn't closed, the
light inside will stay on.

My question is that if someone who is sighted leaves the dryer door
open, even slightly, and the light stays on, can't they see it? Grumble...
Betsy

At 09:03 AM 10/24/2008, you wrote:

>You know this has me thinking. My wife sure wont' go for unplugging
>the microwave, but then getting at the plug is a problem considering
>it's an over the range model. However, I gather the washer and dryer
>although not running will also consume some electricity. I wonder how
>much and how easy it would be to install a switch or something that
>would make plugging the dryer in for example when needed or I should
>say turning it on/off only as needed. I guess the other option is to
>turn off the breaker to the dryer since it's on its own circuit. We
>only use those units once a week and gee we only use the dishwasher
>possibly once or twice a week. SO, would turning those breakers off
>perhaps affect the bill? Maybe I should turn off the breakers to the
>heat pump during the really nice days as they aren't in use. No, I'm
>not trying to be a smartass here, but since folks claim this could
>really impact your electric bill, then I think the question is does
>this make sense and how much really would it impact the bill?
>I generally leave my router and such on during the evening, but maybe
>I should just turn off the ups at night and go from there. I'd likely
>not unplug my printer for example as it has settings that would be
>lost after about a couple of hours. Well actually guess I need to
>check on that as well. Point is I'm all for saving electricity, but
>I'd like to know if what I propose makes any sense at all or would I
>really not save that much money.
>
>tnx
>
>On Oct 24, 2008, at 11:14 AM, Lee A. Stone wrote:
>
> >
> > grinning about your daughter moving out Bob. our neighbors son
> > moved out and they are saving big time as their son was twice a day
> > in the shower, then the hairdryer and burning the lights half the
> > night. I like that idea of putting things on power strips. but
> > question. our microwave displays I guess the time. so if that is off
> > so is the time. our microwave is a 22 year old Sharpe which was in
> > the repair shop the first year and knock on wood. never again. a big
> > ole convection micro but I think of it this way" if it ain't broke
> > then don't replace it". thanks.Lee
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 24,
> > 2008 at 10:53:02AM -0400,
> > chiliblindman wrote:
> > > I had a discussion this mourning about power usage of items in
> > stand-by mode. There was mention of this on this list before about
> > the power used by appliances when in the off mode. Regardless of
> > what it could be; microwave oven, computer or TV, most use power
> > when off especially if we like the instant on feature of items.
> > > A couple placed all there appliances on power strips so they could
> > turn them completely off, reasonably in a easy way anyway. Their
> > electric bill has been slashed in half and they were really excited.
> > > Apparently they do not have a microwave like mine that needs the
> > time set before it is usable. I figured I would pass this
> > information along.
> > > I found something that reduced my electric bill almost in half by
> > accident, my daughter got married and moved out.hahaha
> > > ..................bob
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Don't do the crime, if you can't do the time.
> > -- Lt. Col. Ollie North
> > Come and chat with me at #quietzone on irc.newnet.net
> >
> >
>
>Scott Howell
><mailto:s.howell%40verizon.net>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
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>
>


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