Dale, Why will it be obsolete soon? Betsy At 04:37 PM 11/19/2008, you wrote:
>Tom, > >I don't know that I have a particularly good way but I have soldered >a lot of joints over the years. > >It seems to me I have written extensively on the subject a couple of >years ago. I wonder if that is somewhere in the archives? > >If I had a good recording system I suppose I should record a >tutorial, the subject comes up fairly frequently. Soon though the >process will become obsolete. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Tom Hodges >To: <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>[email protected] >Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 9:26 PM >Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people > >Dale, > >Do you have a good method for sweating cooper pipe for the visually >impaired? If so, I would like to hear about it. > >Thanks, > >Tom > >_____ > >From: ><mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>[email protected] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >On Behalf Of Dale Leavens >Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 9:16 PM >To: <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>[email protected] >Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people > >I guess I have had pretty good luck. The only woodworking show I have been >to so far was in London, I went with my son. There was a chap demonstrating >and selling the Tormek wet slow speed sharpening system which I was very >interested in at the time. Between demonstrations I asked if I could come >around his side of the bench to examine and handle the tool. Within minutes >he got right into it and soon had me demonstrating the equipment with his >instruction to the next gathering of onlookers. I darn nearly bought one >just on the strength of that. > >It was a clerk in a local hardware store who taught me to sweat copper pipe. > >I did run into a problem with a shop teacher here back in about 1975, one of >those after hours night school classes. For me the big problem was that he >didn't approach or tackle it directly with me but went off to the college >people in Timmins and to one of the other class members where they arranged >some sort of agreement where the other student was to assist with >supervising me. I didn't find out about that arrangement until one day the >other student didn't make it. The instructor blurted it all out. The >interesting think is that the other student wasn't there because earlier >that evening he had cut some part of his own hand while trimming tile or >something on his own table saw at his home. > >Ultimately I relented, the instructor had apparently told his supervisor >that if he had to accept me then the buddy system to which I had not agreed, >never even heard of would be implemented otherwise he would refuse to run >the class. I probably could have forced the issue but it would have >destroyed the class for the others and I decided I didn't need to harvest >that bad feeling, particularly in a small town. > >It wasn't really much of a class, nothing formally taught, it was however an >opportunity to use power tools on a scale I would likely never be able to >afford and probably a chance to ask and gain experience from an already >skilled person. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bob Kennedy >To: blindhandyman@ <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com >Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 7:36 PM >Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people > >There is no limit to ignorance. I was at the woodworking show a few years >back, a huge showing of all sorts of dangerous tools for working with wood. >One of the guys selling Forrest Saw blades was on his stage and didn't want >to sell me a blade because he didn't know how a blind person could work a >table saw and not lose fingers. I can't seem to resist a nasty come back >sometimes and told the guy I didn't know how a company with such a good name >would let an idiot represent them in the public place. I did manage to >resist dropping his $150 blade on the concrete floor. But a lot of people >walked away from his display after they heard him. > >Strangely enough, the next display was for Grip-Tite and the guy running the >booth gave me a 2 by 4 and told me to run it through his table saw. I told >him about the guy from Forrest and he couldn't believe it. > >There are good people out there but it's always covered up by the ignorant >ones... >----- Original Message ----- >From: Jewel >To: blindhandyman@ <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com >Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 7:04 PM >Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people > >One of our department stores had a very good special on 20 inch chainsaws >recently, and being a >sucker for chainsaws, I went along to buy one. > >The nasty little jumped-up salesman wouldn't sell me one unless I was >prepared to sign a waiver to >the effect that if injured, I would not sue them. I had no worry about >signing such a document, but >it was a clear case of discrimination for anyone can injure themselves with >a chainsaw, and do those >others have to sign a waiver? no they don't! >Now, this is a store that sold me, without hesitation, a rotary garden hoe >that didn't have a >clutch, even though, for reasons of safety, I had, distinctly, said that a >clutch it must have. >I did not find that it had no clutch until I got it home and was attempting >to find the safety >feature I had demanded it * MUST have! >When I say a * clutch, I mean that the machine can be put out of gear, so >that the hoe tines stops >spinning, but the motor is still running. > >Jewel > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
