Hello,
I am just putting out feelers to see what is possible.
I have never really seen a work bench with the different clamps and such.
I have two tables, one I just pile stuff on for now, and the other is a long 
table which holds all of my bench tools, like band saw, drill press, and sander.
I did go to the files area of the list's web sight today and downloaded the 
file concerning different sorts of clamps.
So maybe If I study that, it will give me a better understanding.
I have used the spring loaded clothes pin types of clamps, the long metal ones 
with the slidding pieses with screw down pieces, c clamps and that's about all 
I have ever used.
My saws have fences and my compound miter has a sort of clamp which sticks in a 
hole on the side, and has a little lever you push down to make it come down and 
hold things.
I make train tracks, which requires keeping the rails a certain distance apart 
and elevated or sitting over the cross ties?
But Anyway, I have to work it out so that the rails are strait, and they are 
set over usually cardboard box so that when I shoot the brad or t nails in, and 
they poke through, I can still lift the finished piece and clip off the excess 
nail on the underside, before setting the tracks on a display piece of board.
It would be nice to be able to work up some way of constantly spacing those 
rails and working out the set up of that.
Keeping my ties up against a fence, and some how spaced properly.
It would be nice to stick a piece of 1 by 4 which I intend to use as the bottom 
board for a truck, car or train car up against a strait and true l shaped angle 
and tell if I hadn't made a mistake in the cutting or selecting of the wood.
And that it was at right angles and all.
I probably could achieve this by clamping my square, which is just a l shaped 
piece of metal ruler I figure to my table.
I would like a dedicated set up to work out where runningboards on truck and 
car pieces go, or to get pieces of wood which serve as bumpers on the cars or 
trucks sintered properly with less trouble.
where fenders go and such as that.
Mainly, I either need a table which already has places for the different clamps 
I might need, or which might make my life easier.
Or, I need to get them and figure out what sort of holes I might need to drill 
in a wooden table I already have made out of a 3 or 4 foot by 2 foot piece of 
wood which is probably the thickness of a 1 by 4, maybe a touch less.
But I don't know how I might go about cutting long slots, for a sliding fence 
or anything like that, so that I could but things up against that.
I'm just curious as to what's out there.
I am tired of having to get in the floor most times to work out the set up of 
pieces before I glue or nail them.
The table someone had suggested is evidently really cheap and from what I read 
of reviews, they started good, but in recent years, the pieces are made in 
china and people told stories of having to rig and squeeze and hammer pieces 
that didn't really fit in to holes and just making it sort of work.
My friend looked at the table in pictures online and said there wasn't much to 
it.
Here's her description of it.
It certainly sounds too small for my wants.
For the work table, how big a surface are you looking for?  The photos show the 
table is about as wide as a bicycle tire, and just big enough to set a circular 
saw on top.


It looks sort of like a folding TV tray table.  The work surface looks like 2 
parallel one by four boards mounted on top of two bar clamps.  The boards run 
side to side, the bars from front to back. 

You can clamp items between the 2 boards by opening or closing the bar clamps 
on either side.  The clamps screw open or closed by cranking the handles that 
stick out the front on either side of the table.   The clamps can be moved 
independently,  ie. the boards don't have to remain parallel, so you can clamp 
uneven items.  And you could certainly attach your own clamps to the surface.

Each board has 3 holes in various spots toward each end into which you can 
insert what they call bench dogs which are pegs with a flat side.  You can 
slide something up against the pegs to keep it from sliding off the bench.


Here are additional specs from the Black and Decker page:

Vertical Clamping - N/A 
Bench Height - 29-3/4 "
Parallel Clamping - 4-5/8 "
Diagonal Clamping - 24 "
Parallel Peg Clamping - 10-3/4 "
Diagonal Peg Clamping - 22-3/8 "
Work Surface - 9"x24" "
Capacity - 350 lbs



http://www.blackanddecker.com/productguide/product-details.aspx?productid=4617&toolview=4#details



  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Bob Kennedy 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 6:03 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] wood working table recommendations please?


  How much do you want to spend? Kreg has an assembly table with T tracks and 
90 degree corners and all but that is more for cabinet work. 

  Making the toys you list I'm not sure I see the need to put out lots of money 
on a fancy table. Not to say there isn't a need, I just don't see it myself. 
Maybe I'm missing something.

  How are you wanting to clamp things. If you want built in vises or something 
on that order, you'll pay a fortune. If you are looking for something to 
assemble your projects on, you could make a very sturdy table by gluing a 
couple sheets of 3 quarter plywood or MDF and making some legs and braces for 
it. 

  Help us out with what type of clamp you want to use. Also, I would think it 
better to use a square in your hand but again I may be missing something in a 
special need. 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Matt 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 2:36 PM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] wood working table recommendations please?

  Hello,
  I am interested in finding a work table or bench with built in features such 
as clamps and maybe a good strait guide for making sure that pieces are square 
and so on?
  I make toy trucks, trains, cars, that sort of thing.
  Someone had suggested a black and Decker work bench, but I read some bad 
reviews.
  Of course, that doesn't always mean anything.
  What do you suggest I get in one or do you have a store bought one which you 
like?
  If you suggest my building my own, please indicate what sort of clamps and 
where to put them, and whatever else you might can think of which I am not 
writing here.

  Thanks a lot,
  I am not currently doing anything much in my shop but would like to be at it 
again.

  Matt

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