the body is the tool we have used the longest and there are many commonalities. It seems to us who haven't as those who have used these that there s a commonality which brings the tool closer to the *natural usage efficiency. I for one intend to get this saw; for the very reason you imagine as stated by others to be the benefit. :)
On Wed, 3 Jun 2009, Jo Taliaferro wrote: > Hmmm, interesting thread about cutting saws! I've used saws and I was > always taught to push and then pull. But.I play Beep Ball and when I > practice my swing, I'm supposed to pull back so I can get a good forceful > swing when I swing to hit the ball. I wonder if I might have more control > over a saw and the blade by pulling it toward me and then pushing! I can > imagine this would be a safer way to make a cut than pushing a saw and not > having a lot of control of the blade unless it was lined up straight. I > realize this isn't a very technical assessment but.makes sense. > > > > Jo Taliaferro > > empowering people to live with their choices > > > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Scott Howell > Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 5:01 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] any joiners about > > > > > > > > > Well now I think you've made such a compelling argument, I just might > have to check them out now. I think that is why I've avoided using > handsaws. > On Jun 2, 2009, at 9:49 PM, Bob Kennedy wrote: > >> >> >> The Japanese believe you have more control by pulling. If you study >> Judo for any time, you'll see many of the throws deal with pulling >> your opponent to you and then throwing. You pull to you because the >> other guy chose to push. >> >> I've heard a bunch of reasons behind the push pull theories, and you >> can take them for what they are worth. I have played Judo for a >> number of years though and I know that to be true... >> >> And if you want a market study, try to find a Western push style saw >> that cuts as easy or as fast and is anywhere near the size of a >> Japanese style saw. I got one of mine from japanwoodworker.com and >> with shipping it was $32.50. The only thing I have that is close to >> the cutting speed is a Swedish tree pruning saw. The teeth on the >> tree saw are about 5/8 inches long and hacks away at a board. I can >> go through a 3/8 oak dowel with my Japanese saw in less than 5 >> seconds and you can hardly feel where the cut was made. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Scott Howell >> To: [email protected] <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> > >> Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 8:23 PM >> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] any joiners about >> >> You know I've read this thread with some interest. It seems to me that >> it would be more natural to cut on the pull stroke instead of the push >> stroke. I hadn't thought much about it until reading this thread, but >> seems you would have a little more control over the cut by pulling >> instead of pushing. I wonder where the idea of cutting on the push >> stroke came from and why the Japanese came up with a saw that cuts on >> the pull stroke. All very interesting questions. >> >> On Jun 2, 2009, at 7:44 PM, Bob Kennedy wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> Try Japanwoodworker.com >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Spiro >>> To: [email protected] > <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> >>> Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 3:09 PM >>> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] any joiners about >>> >>> these sound like an improvement. >>> Where does one acquire them? >>> >>> On Mon, 1 Jun 2009, Tom Fowle wrote: >>> >>>> I have two "japanese" style hand saws, >>>> one is a "back saw" for I assume doing accurate joinery type cuts >>> and the other >>>> is a double edged rip and cross cut saw. >>>> They are very thin and flexible, and the handles are long wooden >>> ovals that >>>> extend maybe 8 or 10 inches beyond the "pull" end of the saw. >>>> You have to stand back from the work a bit to get a good straight >>> pull. >>>> >>>> I am no joinery crafts person, can barely cut to follow scribed >>> marks straight >>>> but these are easy to use when you keep them going straight so >>> they don't >>>> bind, and I think they bind less than "push" >>>> saws. >>>> >>>> Hope that helps >>>> Tom Fowle >>>> >>>> >>> >>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>> >>> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >
