peers? You mean a jury of crash test dummies. "take out the air bags we like the bouncing! wee!"
On Sat, 24 Jul 2010, Bob Kennedy wrote: > A jury is supposed to be made up of 12 of your piers. So there should have > been 12 woodworkers on the jury and they'd have finished the case in a day. > > I like the idea of having to pay legal costs if you lose. Adds some extra > consideration before finding a slick attorney and filing papers. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Cy Selfridge > To: [email protected] > Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 6:18 PM > Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] FW: How much is a finger worth? > > > > Bob, > > I could not agree with you more. These idiot law suits should be illegal > and, furthermore, when the plaintiff looses I am not sure that he should not > have to pay the legal costs involved in the defense. Man, that sure would > slow down some folks who know that it will cost the company or other person > a whole lot to defend themselves even though the case may be hopeless. > > You are also correct, even if the saw had all of the available safety > equipment on it the moron would probably have disabled it as well. How the > Dickens did that goof win the case? > > Cy, The anasazi > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Bob Kennedy > Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 3:47 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] FW: How much is a finger worth? > > This is truly a disgusting reflection on the legal system. > > To reward some idiot for disabling any safety features that were available > is crazy. > I've researched this case for an article I am helping write for another list > I'm on. For those that don't know the details, here are the important ones. > > The guy was working for a hardwood flooring company. He was using a "bench > top" saw, not on a table or bench top, but on the floor. > > Next, he was trying to run a piece of 3 quarter inch thick by 2 and a > quarter inches wide piece of oak wood through the blade of this saw without > any available safety devices. > > If you read the instruction manual for any saw, they advise having the blade > set so the teeth are just above the surface of the wood being cut. > > Court papers show he had the blade set to 3 inches, almost 2 and a quarter > inches higher than recommended, and almost the limit for blade height on > that particular saw. > > All table saw manufacturers recommend keeping the blade guard in place. This > one had been removed. > > Anyone that uses a table saw knows the fence is required to make a straight > cut. The fence in this case was not on the saw either. The victim admitted > in court, both the blade guard and fence were not in place. > > Finally, when he started the cut, he said the wood started to chatter so he > shut the saw down. He brushed the surface of the table clean and resumed his > cut. When the wood started chattering again, he started pushing harder, > completely opposite what you should do, and that is when his mishap > occurred. > > In the court papers, he admitted to having operated the saw while on one > knee on the floor. A completely off balance position. > > It is important to note that the law suit doesn't involve the flooring > company this guy worked for. > > This is an attempt to mandate that all saws carry the blade break system in > place on the SawStop brand. > > The model saw used cost $159 from home Depot. A bench top saw is designed to > be lighter in weight, and is smaller so it can be used on a bench top. > Adding a blade brake would greatly increase the size of the saw, and > probably make it unsafe to sit on a bench. Not to mention the fact that you > can forget about $159 for a price. The same saw would most likely double in > price if not more. > > If the congress really wants to do something productive, something that > would help all of us, they need to put a stop to law suits like this. Suing > McDonalds because you are fat, or because their coffee is too hot? > > When I owned a shop years ago, we were all terrified as business owners when > some jerk picked up a running lawn mower and tried to cut his hedges with > it. > > This guy lost his finger tips but sued because there wasn't a warning label > saying a mower wasn't fit for trimming hedges. > > His win in this law suit put a whole company out of business. You can't > legislate against stupidity. If I use a machine designed to cut something as > hard as oak wood, I know it won't have a problem cutting my fingers or hand > off. > > If I take off the blade guard and fence and still try to cut wood, I deserve > any punishment the saw dishes out for being that stupid. > > Have a problem paying for health insurance? Paying claims like these are > what helps boost the cost. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Shane Hecker > To: [email protected] <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 4:35 PM > Subject: [BlindHandyMan] FW: How much is a finger worth? > > I thought this was interesting. > > Shane > > Feed: Productopia: The ConsumerSearch Blog > Posted on: Saturday, July 24, 2010 8:02 AM > Author: Catherine Jo Morgan > Subject: How much is a finger worth? > > How about a hand? Do table saw > <http://www.consumersearch.com/table-saw-reviews> manufacturers have an > obligation to use the safest technology available? The first jury to > consider this question -- in a civil lawsuit against the maker of Ryobi > table saws -- answered quite a definite "yes," to the tune of a 1.5 million > dollar award > <http://www.boston.com/yourtown/malden/articles/2010/03/06/man_wins_15m_in_f > irst_of_its_kind_saw_case/%20> to the plaintiff. > > read > <http://www.consumersearch.com/blog/how-much-is-a-finger-worth-0?utm_source= > RSS > <http://www.consumersearch.com/blog/how-much-is-a-finger-worth-0?utm_source= > RSS&utm_medium=RSS> &utm_medium=RSS> more > > <http://rss.consumersearch.com/~ff/product-reviews?a=RST_N4bUEek:Ijc4TGBBRpI > :yIl2AUoC8zA> > <http://rss.consumersearch.com/~ff/product-reviews?a=RST_N4bUEek:Ijc4TGBBRpI > :qj6IDK7rITs> > <http://rss.consumersearch.com/~ff/product-reviews?a=RST_N4bUEek:Ijc4TGBBRpI > :V_sGLiPBpWU> > <http://rss.consumersearch.com/~ff/product-reviews?a=RST_N4bUEek:Ijc4TGBBRpI > :gIN9vFwOqvQ> > <http://rss.consumersearch.com/~ff/product-reviews?a=RST_N4bUEek:Ijc4TGBBRpI > :F7zBnMyn0Lo> > > <http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/product-reviews/~4/RST_N4bUEek> > > View > <http://rss.consumersearch.com/~r/product-reviews/~3/RST_N4bUEek/how-much-is > -a-finger-worth-0> article... > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >
