LGTM3 On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 9:00 PM Daniel Bratell <bratel...@gmail.com> wrote:
> LGTM2 > > /Daniel > On 2021-11-11 17:39, Chris Harrelson wrote: > > I discussed offline with font experts (Dominik in particular) and they > confirmed that removal of -webkit-pictograph would provide ok-looking > fallbacks. They also agreed that it would be a good idea to implement > font-family: emoji, and we're looking into finding someone to do that, but > that doesn't have to block this intent. > > LGTM1 to remove -webkit-pictograph now without a deprecation period. > > On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 1:43 AM Frédéric Wang <fw...@igalia.com> wrote: > >> Le 10/11/2021 à 22:11, Daniel Bratell a écrit : >> >> The 0.0028% number is low, but I wonder what the effect will be on the >> sites that use webkit-pictograph today. Will they get another font >> containing the same glyphs, or is there a risk a symbol won't show at all? >> >> If they "just" gets a differently looking font, then the risk is even >> smaller. >> >> /Daniel >> >> Hi, in general when you have a character in a page, browsers will do >> their best to select a glyph for that characters, trying available fonts, >> with the choice guided by the list specified in font-family. So I believe >> (font expert please correct me if I'm wrong) removing a generic font family >> should just affect the choice, not the visibility of the symbol. >> >> Moreover, quoting the initial message of this thread: >> >> Le 13/08/2021 à 14:23, Frédéric Wang a écrit : >> >> - Apple Color Emoji on macOS (and iOS/WebKit) >> >> - Segoe UI Symbol on Windows >> >> - Times New Roman on Linux >> >> - Noto Color Emoji on ChromeOS >> >> - This feature is not implemented on Android. >> >> So first this change won't affect Android. Moreover, I suspect we have >> more fonts with good emoji coverage these days, compared to when this was >> implemented 10 years ago (I'm not sure "Times New Roman" is really helpful >> or the best choice on Linux for example). >> >> Finally, as an alternative (and maybe replying to Yoav) we could in >> parallel implement "font-family: emoji" as a replacement (keeping the same >> preference on Desktop and maybe clever selection on Android) and deprecate >> -webkit-pictograph (remapping it to "emoji" in the meantime). This would be >> similar to what was done for "system-ui" here: >> >> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/hvN9YVvIb5c >> >> And we could also do the same in WebKit: >> >> https://lists.webkit.org/pipermail/webkit-dev/2021-August/031938.html >> >> What do you think? >> >> -- >> Frédéric Wang >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "blink-dev" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to blink-dev+unsubscr...@chromium.org. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/172a2a7c-f5d2-797b-9633-58082e773903%40igalia.com >> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/172a2a7c-f5d2-797b-9633-58082e773903%40igalia.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "blink-dev" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blink-dev+unsubscr...@chromium.org. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CAL5BFfX3xyBfL-87iSx5VY8k35qQDj9N4nf6UT%3DLBgpzVHf63g%40mail.gmail.com.