re webrtc trying to skip TAG review ... we were told at one point (a few years back, I think) that we were sending too many TAG reviews; I believe that at that point, something like 1/3 of the outstanding TAG reviews were on relatively small WebRTC features. I guess we scaled back too forcefully .... thanks for pointing out the desire to course-correct.
On Wed, Jun 1, 2022 at 6:13 PM Alex Russell <slightly...@chromium.org> wrote: > Hey Elad, > > This is a pretty simple design, and it's great to see the progress here. > That said, this group of intents (systemAudio, suppressLocalAudioPlayback, > and selfBrowserSurface) would benefit from a joint explainer with > considered alternatives outlined. The TAG might not have much to say about > small changes, but our process asks teams to *at least *send them an FYI > for non-controversial updates so that they can consider how parts fit > together in future. > > Given that the WebRTC group has a history of trying to skip TAG review, it > doesn't seem right for this set of features to launch without some > intentional design review. Can you file a request with them or get several > of the current and former TAG members (Rossen, David, Alice, myself, or > Domenic) in the project to review the design directly? > > Thanks > > > On Wednesday, June 1, 2022 at 12:35:24 AM UTC-7 Elad Alon wrote: > >> I've set my alarm. >> I'll implicitly assume the same period is intended for the other three >> intents-to-ship sent at roughly the same time. >> >> On Wed, Jun 1, 2022 at 9:29 AM Yoav Weiss <yoavwe...@chromium.org> wrote: >> >>> Let's give them 1 more week to respond. >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 1, 2022 at 9:21 AM Elad Alon <elada...@google.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Okay, will do. (I've also sent a personal email on the day the intent >>>> went out.) >>>> When shall I ping this thread if no response is received? >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jun 1, 2022 at 8:30 AM Yoav Weiss <yoavwe...@chromium.org> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wednesday, May 25, 2022 at 2:38:53 PM UTC+2 Elad Alon wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Contact emailselada...@chromium.org >>>>>> >>>>>> Explainer >>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1q3oGy7hLJmdQA4ZK7QG7DnwgtcpL6oB2pqLQJ6MP1tY/edit?usp=sharing >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Specification >>>>>> https://github.com/w3c/mediacapture-screen-share/pull/222/files >>>>>> >>>>>> Summary >>>>>> >>>>>> Hint indicating to the user agent whether the application, upon >>>>>> calling getDisplayMedia() with {audio: true} or similar, wishes *system >>>>>> audio* to be offered to the user. (If not - only offer tab-audio.) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Blink componentBlink >>>>>> <https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?q=component:Blink> >>>>>> >>>>>> TAG reviewN/A. This is just an addition of a single flag to an >>>>>> existing dictionary, following well-known patterns. >>>>>> >>>>>> TAG review statusNot applicable >>>>>> >>>>>> Risks >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Interoperability and Compatibility >>>>>> >>>>>> *Gecko*: Positive ( >>>>>> https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/638) Jan-Ivar >>>>>> Bruaroey from Mozilla, and Youenn Fablet from Apple, have both >>>>>> collaborated >>>>>> with us closely in shaping this PR. They have then approved merging this >>>>>> PR >>>>>> into w3c/mediacapture-screen-share. This is implicit support, so I'd >>>>>> consider it POSITIVE even though, as of the time of this writing, the >>>>>> official request for position has not yet been answered. >>>>>> >>>>>> *WebKit*: Positive ( >>>>>> https://lists.webkit.org/pipermail/webkit-dev/2022-May/032247.html) >>>>>> Jan-Ivar Bruaroey from Mozilla, and Youenn Fablet from Apple, have both >>>>>> collaborated with us closely in shaping this PR. They have then approved >>>>>> merging this PR into w3c/mediacapture-screen-share. This is implicit >>>>>> support, so I'd consider it POSITIVE even though, as of the time of this >>>>>> writing, the official request for position has not yet been answered. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> While encouraging, neither counts as a positive position based on >>>>> https://bit.ly/blink-signals >>>>> It might be good to give them a few more days to chime in. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> *Web developers*: Positive Endorsed by Google Meet. >>>>>> >>>>>> Security >>>>>> >>>>>> This feature can only be used by Web applications to REDUCE the >>>>>> amount of private information they obtain from the user. As such, this >>>>>> is a >>>>>> net security gain. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Debuggability >>>>>> >>>>>> N/A >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Will this feature be supported on all six Blink platforms (Windows, >>>>>> Mac, Linux, Chrome OS, Android, and Android WebView)?No. Supported >>>>>> on all platforms that support getDisplayMedia. (Namely, all desktop >>>>>> platforms.) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests >>>>>> <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/main/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md> >>>>>> ?No >>>>>> >>>>>> Tracking bug >>>>>> https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=1329129 >>>>>> >>>>>> Estimated milestones >>>>>> >>>>>> No milestones specified >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status >>>>>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/4649448880734208 >>>>>> >>>>>> Links to previous Intent discussionsIntent to prototype: >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/zUJh3aXAC3k >>>>>> >>>>>> This intent message was generated by Chrome Platform Status >>>>>> <https://chromestatus.com/>. >>>>>> >>>>> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "blink-dev" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to blink-dev+unsubscr...@chromium.org. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/1dc008bf-e1f9-4d73-8b29-287cbf2e6f1fn%40chromium.org > <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/1dc008bf-e1f9-4d73-8b29-287cbf2e6f1fn%40chromium.org?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "blink-dev" group. 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