On Wed, Nov 23, 2022 at 6:14 PM Rick Byers <[email protected]> wrote:

> Seems like a tiny addition to a well supported pattern.  LGTM1 from my
> perspective.
>
> Other comments inline
>
> On Wed, Nov 23, 2022 at 12:02 PM Yoav Weiss <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 23, 2022 at 5:15 PM 'François Beaufort' via blink-dev <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Contact emails
>>>
>>> [email protected], [email protected]
>>>
>>> Explainer
>>>
>>> https://github.com/w3c/mediasession/issues/274
>>>
>>> Specification
>>>
>>> https://w3c.github.io/mediasession/#dom-mediasessionaction-previousslide
>>>
>>> https://w3c.github.io/mediasession/#dom-mediasessionaction-nextslide
>>>
>>> API spec
>>>
>>> Yes
>>>
>>> Summary
>>>
>>> Adds "previousslide" and "nextslide" actions to the existing Media
>>> Session API.
>>>
>>> Blink component
>>>
>>> Blink>Media>Session
>>>
>>> Motivation
>>>
>>> This will enable developers of video conferencing websites to handle
>>> these actions from browser UI. For example, if the user puts their slides
>>> presentation into a picture-in-picture window, the browser could display
>>> buttons for navigating through slides. When the user clicks those, the
>>> website handles them through the Media Session API.
>>>
>>
>> Neat! :)
>>
>>
>>>
>>> TAG review
>>>
>>> This small addition to the Media Session API doesn’t seem to qualify for
>>> a TAG review.
>>>
>>> Note that one for video conferencing actions was approved previously at
>>> https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/608
>>>
>>
> Thanks, that's good to see. The explainer
> <https://gist.github.com/steimelchrome/d52f0fb9a0a13c63a3cf2d4134b71682>
> linked there was also helpful to me to quickly understand how this is used.
>
> TAG review status
>>>
>>> N/A
>>>
>>> Debuggability
>>>
>>> No DevTools changes are required, treated like any other attribute/enum.
>>>
>>> Risks
>>>
>>>
>>> Interoperability and Compatibility
>>> It’s low risk as it's a small addition to an existing API that both
>>> Gecko and WebKit approve of.
>>>
>>>
>>> Signals from other implementations (Gecko, WebKit):
>>>
>>> Gecko: Positive (
>>> https://github.com/w3c/mediasession/pull/284#pullrequestreview-1106405304
>>> )
>>>
>>> WebKit: Positive (
>>> https://github.com/w3c/mediasession/pull/284#issuecomment-1217526791)
>>>
>>
>> Can you file for official positions? https://bit.ly/blink-signals
>>
>
> Personally I'd be also fine calling this "no signals" - it's a very tiny
> addition and Gecko and WebKit already support the general pattern.
>
> In general I feel like we should have some pattern for making small tweaks
> to exposed APIs that doesn't pollute these standards position repositories
> with noise. Yoav, WDYT?
>

I'm fine with calling this "no official signal" while pointing to the PR
comments.
I was mostly trying to avoid them feeling we're misrepresenting their
opinions
<https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/bYZK81WxYBo/m/2WGAimSPBAAJ>
.


>
> Web / Framework developers: Positive - The existence of the popular (100K+
>>> users) Remote for Slides extension (
>>> https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/remote-for-slides/pojijacppbhikhkmegdoechbfiiibppi)
>>> proves that there is strong user demand for a (remote) slide control
>>> feature, up to the point that they would install an extension just for that.
>>>
>>
> Nice signal!
>
>
>> Ergonomics:
>>>
>>> N/A
>>>
>>> Activation:
>>>
>>> Web developers will be able to simply set/unset a media session action
>>> handler for “Previous Slide” and “Next Slide” to control the visibility of
>>> the button in the Picture-in-Picture window. When the action name is not
>>> supported, it raises a TypeError which can be caught to detect feature
>>> support.
>>>
>>> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests?
>>>
>>> https://wpt.fyi/results/mediasession/setactionhandler.html
>>>
>>
> Will someone be adding the two new actions to this test? You'll probably
> want the new ones in a separate test case.
>
> The test is pretty trivial - just makes sure actions can be added, without
> verifying that callbacks get invoked. But IMHO I wouldn't personally see
> building an automation pipeline for testing the callbacks as high priority.
>
> Tracking bug
>>>
>>> https://crbug.com/1363548
>>>
>>> Estimated milestones
>>>
>>> DevTrial on desktop 110
>>>
>>> DevTrial on Android 110
>>>
>>> Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status
>>>
>>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/5090980649238528
>>>
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