On Wed, Nov 23, 2022 at 6:21 PM Yoav Weiss <[email protected]> wrote:

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> On Wed, Nov 23, 2022 at 6:14 PM Rick Byers <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> Seems like a tiny addition to a well supported pattern.  LGTM1 from my
>> perspective.
>>
>> Other comments inline
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 23, 2022 at 12:02 PM Yoav Weiss <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
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>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 23, 2022 at 5:15 PM 'François Beaufort' via blink-dev <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Contact emails
>>>>
>>>> [email protected], [email protected]
>>>>
>>>> Explainer
>>>>
>>>> https://github.com/w3c/mediasession/issues/274
>>>>
>>>> Specification
>>>>
>>>> https://w3c.github.io/mediasession/#dom-mediasessionaction-previousslide
>>>>
>>>> https://w3c.github.io/mediasession/#dom-mediasessionaction-nextslide
>>>>
>>>> API spec
>>>>
>>>> Yes
>>>>
>>>> Summary
>>>>
>>>> Adds "previousslide" and "nextslide" actions to the existing Media
>>>> Session API.
>>>>
>>>> Blink component
>>>>
>>>> Blink>Media>Session
>>>>
>>>> Motivation
>>>>
>>>> This will enable developers of video conferencing websites to handle
>>>> these actions from browser UI. For example, if the user puts their slides
>>>> presentation into a picture-in-picture window, the browser could display
>>>> buttons for navigating through slides. When the user clicks those, the
>>>> website handles them through the Media Session API.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Neat! :)
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> TAG review
>>>>
>>>> This small addition to the Media Session API doesn’t seem to qualify
>>>> for a TAG review.
>>>>
>>>> Note that one for video conferencing actions was approved previously at
>>>> https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/608
>>>>
>>>
>> Thanks, that's good to see. The explainer
>> <https://gist.github.com/steimelchrome/d52f0fb9a0a13c63a3cf2d4134b71682>
>> linked there was also helpful to me to quickly understand how this is used.
>>
>> TAG review status
>>>>
>>>> N/A
>>>>
>>>> Debuggability
>>>>
>>>> No DevTools changes are required, treated like any other attribute/enum.
>>>>
>>>> Risks
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Interoperability and Compatibility
>>>> It’s low risk as it's a small addition to an existing API that both
>>>> Gecko and WebKit approve of.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Signals from other implementations (Gecko, WebKit):
>>>>
>>>> Gecko: Positive (
>>>> https://github.com/w3c/mediasession/pull/284#pullrequestreview-1106405304
>>>> )
>>>>
>>>> WebKit: Positive (
>>>> https://github.com/w3c/mediasession/pull/284#issuecomment-1217526791)
>>>>
>>>
>>> Can you file for official positions? https://bit.ly/blink-signals
>>>
>>
>> Personally I'd be also fine calling this "no signals" - it's a very tiny
>> addition and Gecko and WebKit already support the general pattern.
>>
>> In general I feel like we should have some pattern for making small
>> tweaks to exposed APIs that doesn't pollute these standards position
>> repositories with noise. Yoav, WDYT?
>>
>
> I'm fine with calling this "no official signal" while pointing to the PR
> comments.
> I was mostly trying to avoid them feeling we're misrepresenting their
> opinions
> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/bYZK81WxYBo/m/2WGAimSPBAAJ>
> .
>

 As suggested, I've updated
https://chromestatus.com/feature/5090980649238528 with "No signal" for both
Safari and Firefox.

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>
>>
>> Web / Framework developers: Positive - The existence of the popular
>>>> (100K+ users) Remote for Slides extension (
>>>> https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/remote-for-slides/pojijacppbhikhkmegdoechbfiiibppi)
>>>> proves that there is strong user demand for a (remote) slide control
>>>> feature, up to the point that they would install an extension just for 
>>>> that.
>>>>
>>>
>> Nice signal!
>>
>>
>>> Ergonomics:
>>>>
>>>> N/A
>>>>
>>>> Activation:
>>>>
>>>> Web developers will be able to simply set/unset a media session action
>>>> handler for “Previous Slide” and “Next Slide” to control the visibility of
>>>> the button in the Picture-in-Picture window. When the action name is not
>>>> supported, it raises a TypeError which can be caught to detect feature
>>>> support.
>>>>
>>>> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests?
>>>>
>>>> https://wpt.fyi/results/mediasession/setactionhandler.html
>>>>
>>>
>> Will someone be adding the two new actions to this test? You'll probably
>> want the new ones in a separate test case.
>>
>
We'll be adding two tests indeed. See WIP Chromium CL changes at
https://chromium-review.googlesource.com/c/chromium/src/+/3835037/19/third_party/blink/web_tests/external/wpt/mediasession/setactionhandler.html


>
>> The test is pretty trivial - just makes sure actions can be added,
>> without verifying that callbacks get invoked. But IMHO I wouldn't
>> personally see building an automation pipeline for testing the callbacks as
>> high priority.
>>
>> Tracking bug
>>>>
>>>> https://crbug.com/1363548
>>>>
>>>> Estimated milestones
>>>>
>>>> DevTrial on desktop 110
>>>>
>>>> DevTrial on Android 110
>>>>
>>>> Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status
>>>>
>>>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/5090980649238528
>>>>
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