On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 12:13 PM Ian Kilpatrick <ikilpatr...@google.com> wrote:
> > > On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 8:58 AM Rick Byers <rby...@chromium.org> wrote: > >> On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 11:14 AM Ian Kilpatrick <ikilpatr...@google.com> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 7:28 AM Rick Byers <rby...@chromium.org> wrote: >>> >>>> Given the lack of signals from other implementers, any other indication >>>> on the maturity of the spec? I searched for open bugs and found only this >>>> one <https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/8214> which sounds >>>> fairly minor to me - likely resolvable without major compat implications. >>>> >>> >>> We got a positive signal from the Firefox folks here: >>> https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/727 >>> >> >> Yep, that's great. But what I was asking was that you're not aware of any >> outstanding design debates or bugs which might cause future compat issues, >> right? >> > > Oh sorry - missed that part of your question. No not particularly - the > open issue which we raised ( > https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/8214) is surrounding a > clarification to the spec for a somewhat edge case. We've implemented what > we think is the best behaviour but wanted to double check with the broader > group. We'll be able to change this specific behaviour safely after we ship > if needed as it is a relative edge case. > > (The case in question is that the "inline-block" baseline algorithm > contains a lot of quirks and counter intuitive behaviour, e.g. tables get > skipped in some cases, and for things with "overflow: hidden" the baseline > is ignored, the behavour we've implemented uses the baseline behaviour from > flex/grid - see > https://www.software.hixie.ch/utilities/js/live-dom-viewer/?saved=11177 for > an explicit example). > Makes sense, thanks, LGTM2. >> Regardless, I agree this is quite minor, seems reasonable to ship absent >>>> any known objections or significant outstanding issues. >>>> >>> >>> Yeah this is a very minor feature all things considered. >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Rick >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 11:13 PM 一丝 <yio...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> We can use >>>>> https://w3c.github.io/csswg-drafts/css-inline-3/#baseline-source >>>>> >>>>> 以上 >>>>> 一丝 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Ian Kilpatrick <ikilpatr...@chromium.org> 于2023年1月11日周三 08:19写道： >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 4:48 AM Yoav Weiss <yoavwe...@chromium.org> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 9, 2023 at 7:24 PM Ian Kilpatrick < >>>>>>> ikilpatr...@chromium.org> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Contact emailsikilpatr...@chromium.org >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ExplainerNone >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Specificationhttps://drafts.csswg.org/css-inline-3/#baseline-source >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> link seems down :/ >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Yeah the csswg server is a little sporadic at the moment. Up at the >>>>>> moment. >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Summary >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The "baseline-source" properties allows web developers to specify >>>>>>>> if an inline-level box should use the "first" or "last" baseline for >>>>>>>> alignment within an linebox. Today the default behaviour is confusing >>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>> web developers. Consider: test <div style="display: >>>>>>>> inline-block;">line1<br>line2</div> test <div style="display: >>>>>>>> inline-flex;">line1<br>line2</div> The "inline-block" will align to the >>>>>>>> last baseline, and the "inline-flex" will align to the first baseline. >>>>>>>> "baseline-source: auto" is the existing (confusing) behaviour. Web >>>>>>>> developers can specify "baseline-source: first" or "baseline-source: >>>>>>>> last" >>>>>>>> to directly determine how they want these boxes to align within a >>>>>>>> line-box. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Blink componentBlink>Layout>Inline >>>>>>>> <https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?q=component:Blink%3ELayout%3EInline> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> TAG reviewHappy to file one if desired. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Will we be the first to ship this? If so, I believe one is required. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Done - It's a very small improvement to an existing API set so >>>>>> unclear but filed one anyway. >>>>>> https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/801 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> TAG review statusNot applicable >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Risks >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Interoperability and Compatibility >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *Gecko*: No signal >>>>>>>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1805273 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *WebKit*: No signal https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=249094 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Can you file for https://bit.ly/blink-signals? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Done >>>>>> https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/727 >>>>>> https://github.com/WebKit/standards-positions/issues/118 >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *Web developers*: Positive from my discussions. This has been a >>>>>>>> consistent source of frustration with developers trying to align >>>>>>>> content >>>>>>>> within a line-box. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Any links? >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> This is primarily discussions I've had with developers with >>>>>> frustration with the current behaviour. No public links unfortunately. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> *Other signals*: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> WebView application risks >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Does this intent deprecate or change behavior of existing APIs, >>>>>>>> such that it has potentially high risk for Android WebView-based >>>>>>>> applications? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Debuggability >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Standard devtools CSS debugging. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Will this feature be supported on all six Blink platforms (Windows, >>>>>>>> Mac, Linux, Chrome OS, Android, and Android WebView)?Yes >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests >>>>>>>> <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/main/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md> >>>>>>>> ?Yes >>>>>>>> https://wpt.fyi/results/css/css-inline/baseline-source?label=master&label=experimental&aligned&view=subtest&q=baseline-source >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Flag name--experimental-web-platform-features >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Requires code in //chrome?False >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Tracking bug >>>>>>>> https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=1399711 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Estimated milestones >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> M111 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Anticipated spec changes >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/8214 still needs to be >>>>>>>> resolved. We've implemented what we believe the "good" behaviour is. >>>>>>>> The >>>>>>>> CSSWG is a little backed up with issues at the moment, and may take a >>>>>>>> while >>>>>>>> to address. 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