> > For the purposes of WHATWG's multi-implementer support criteria: I will
assume we cannot check the box for "Chromium supports this feature" until a
different browser has shipped :state() to their stable channel. (Let me
know if that is incorrect.)
>
> Chromium does support the feature, and it should be marked as such in the
WHATWG. (We've shipped it in fact, just with a slightly different name for
the moment.)

Yeah I'm worried that not merging the spec would be a confusing signal to
Apple and then they might never implement anything. I'd like to see the
HTML spec get merged as :state().

On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 8:55 AM Chris Harrelson <chris...@chromium.org>
wrote:

>
>
> On Thu, Oct 19, 2023 at 6:48 PM Domenic Denicola <dome...@chromium.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Chris and the API Owners for having this discussion! I am
>> sympathetic to this being a hard problem with the strong potential to set a
>> bad precedent.
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 3:00 AM Chris Harrelson <chris...@chromium.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 19, 2023 at 10:59 AM Chris Harrelson <chris...@chromium.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The API owners met yesterday and discussed this intent. Our consensus
>>>> was that we would like to wait until another browser has implemented and is
>>>> shipping :state before we approve shipping it in Chromium. We also don't
>>>> recommend spending more time on further bikeshet spec discussions for it in
>>>> the meantime, and leave the spec as-is.
>>>>
>>>
>>> "bikeshed", that is.
>>>
>>
>> With my HTML spec editor hat on, I have a clarifying point and question.
>>
>> "Leave the spec as-is": right now there are unmerged CSS
>> <https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/pull/8213> and HTML
>> <https://github.com/whatwg/html/pull/8467> spec PRs, plus a WICG spec
>> <https://wicg.github.io/custom-state-pseudo-class/>. So it's not clear
>> exactly which spec you're referring to, but I guess the advice is for
>> Chromium engineers to not invest effort in changing any of these three work
>> items for bikeshed considerations. (Let me know if this is incorrect.) Of
>> course, other community members can continue to work on the spec if they
>> wish.
>>
>
> Those PRs should be finished and landed. My/our comment was only about
> bikeshedding.
>
> For the purposes of WHATWG's multi-implementer support criteria: I will
>> assume we cannot check the box for "Chromium supports this feature" until a
>> different browser has shipped :state() to their stable channel. (Let me
>> know if that is incorrect.)
>>
>
> Chromium does support the feature, and it should be marked as such in the
> WHATWG. (We've shipped it in fact, just with a slightly different name for
> the moment.)
>
>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> We think this plan is a reasonable approach to reduce work for
>>>> web developers and Chromium implementers in the short term while still
>>>> achieving interop in the future.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Oct 12, 2023 at 11:41 AM Alex Russell <slightly...@chromium.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hey all,
>>>>>
>>>>> We've spent a LOT of time discussing this one in API OWNERS, and my
>>>>> disinclination to allow this to move forward remains. What we're observing
>>>>> in this Intent is an anti-pattern in which:
>>>>>
>>>>>    - Chromium engineers follow a process that is designed to put
>>>>>    developer needs above implementer preferences
>>>>>    
>>>>> <https://www.w3.org/2019/09/17-components-minutes.html#:~:text=chrishtr:%20I%20think%20having%20custom%20states%20was%20the%20%231%20request%20on%20top%20of%20parts>,
>>>>>    explore the design space earnestly, work with developers to vet a 
>>>>> solution,
>>>>>    and work to build interest with other vendors
>>>>>    
>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/CApU9QIu3TM/m/LPKLLLahDQAJ>
>>>>>    .
>>>>>    - Other projects fail to implement and/or implement alternatives.
>>>>>    - The API OWNERS take a calculated risk to ship first. That is
>>>>>    premised on collateral the development team provides that the design 
>>>>> solves
>>>>>    an important problem well, demonstrating developer support and that our
>>>>>    process for open development has given ample time for others to engage 
>>>>> and
>>>>>    help shape the design.
>>>>>    - Time passes (often years).
>>>>>    - Without implementing themselves, other vendors demand that the
>>>>>    design change to achieve "consensus" within a standards body, but 
>>>>> without
>>>>>    demonstrating real deficiencies in the shipped API or even feedback 
>>>>> from
>>>>>    developers that we were wrong in some important way.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Or put another way, spec fiction is being allowed to trump real-world
>>>>> problem solving, and that's not what our process is designed to 
>>>>> facilitate.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not only does this pattern further escalate the costs involved in the
>>>>> process to deliver a feature where we have already paid treble to
>>>>> ice-break, it potentially breaks applications -- remember that we suffer
>>>>> from enterprise blindness in our use counters, so it's probable that we
>>>>> will also need to reach out to, e.g., Salesforce and ask them to help
>>>>> collect data. This pattern also drags us away from other work that would
>>>>> expand the platform for users and developers in productive ways.
>>>>>
>>>>> These costs may seems small on an individual feature basis, but they
>>>>> add up fast and set terrible precedent. I'm *extremely* unhappy that
>>>>> we seem to be engaging in more of it over the past year, particularly
>>>>> without strong arguments for why the new design is superior. Even the
>>>>> recent debate over this feature is largely about non-committal mild
>>>>> preferences:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/4805#issuecomment-1663111980
>>>>>
>>>>> At this point I've read substantially all of the minutes related to
>>>>> these design choices, and this is *absolutely *late bikeshedding by
>>>>> folks who haven't implemented either alternative and were widely consulted
>>>>> at the time we backstopped the initial I2S.
>>>>>
>>>>> Per our conversation yesterday, I'm struggling to get to "yes" on
>>>>> this. At a minimum, I need a stronger argument for why we should make this
>>>>> change than that someone in the CSS WG had a mild preference years after
>>>>> the CSS WG was first consulted on the problem. It would help if we had a
>>>>> commitment from the Intent proposers to avoid this sort of change in
>>>>> future. Deciding to ship this would also need to be clearly disclaimed as
>>>>> non-precedent, and I'd be looking from support of the managers of these
>>>>> teams to prevent this sort of make-work in future. How close are we to
>>>>> agreement on that?
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>>
>>>>> Alex
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 7:49:09 AM UTC-7 Brian Kardell wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't normally weigh in on these but I just wanted to say that I
>>>>>> think this one is pretty unique for a whole bunch of reasons and it's not
>>>>>> just an example of bikeshedding after shipping by a specific vendor or
>>>>>> something.  It's more than that.  As much as I think this is important, 
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> wanted it, there were a million other things to talk about re: custom
>>>>>> elements that were ahead of it and it just didn't get the level of oxygen
>>>>>> that it needed from many quarters, it seems to me, in order to surface 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> right thoughts.  As it's picked up, over the last few years there were
>>>>>> disagreements, counterpoints, etc at many stages through WHATWG, TAG,
>>>>>> CSSWG... It feels like it would be good to summarize all of it somewhere 
>>>>>> -
>>>>>> and I'm not even saying the decision here is "right" or something ... I'm
>>>>>> just saying that I don't think it is as simple as "bikeshedding after
>>>>>> shipping" implies
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 4:54:26 PM UTC-4 Chris Harrelson
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regarding why change to :state() instead of :--: as is typical, it
>>>>>>> was done in order to gain consensus; in particular, the CSSWG resolution
>>>>>>> notes indicate
>>>>>>> <https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/4805#issuecomment-1663111980>
>>>>>>>  (see
>>>>>>> comment from the chair) one motivation is to align with WHATWG and not 
>>>>>>> end
>>>>>>> up with a situation where two standards groups have opposing positions 
>>>>>>> in a
>>>>>>> gray-area situation and no progress is made.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't think that 0.03% is a big problem to deprecate, and
>>>>>>> recommend we just make the change to match a hard-won consensus and move
>>>>>>> on. It's easy enough to support both syntaxes for some amount of time
>>>>>>> before removing the old one.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 5, 2023 at 1:49 PM Chris Harrelson <chri...@chromium.org>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 4, 2023 at 2:24 PM Jeffrey Yasskin <
>>>>>>>> jyas...@chromium.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Apparently +Chris Wilson had part of this discussion with Alan
>>>>>>>>> Stearns in April at
>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/8730#issuecomment-1524167658,
>>>>>>>>> and the suggestion was that if a CSS spec for a feature is "unstable"
>>>>>>>>> (meaning 'not at CR'?), then we should either post "we're about to 
>>>>>>>>> send an
>>>>>>>>> intent" to the last issue discussing it, or file an "Is X ready to 
>>>>>>>>> ship?"
>>>>>>>>> issue. I think +Chris Harrelson is likely to have the strongest
>>>>>>>>> opinions about this: should we add such a rule to our launch process 
>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> CSS features?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think we generally shouldn't ship CSS features before there is
>>>>>>>> robust discussion and consensus at the CSSWG, and I think Chromium 
>>>>>>>> features
>>>>>>>> have done a good job at that. The CSSWG resolution mechanism, and the
>>>>>>>> various stages of W3C standardization help to build confidence about 
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> degree of consensus and commitment, as do signals from other browser
>>>>>>>> vendors. I don't think we should additionally require filing an "is X 
>>>>>>>> ready
>>>>>>>> to ship?" issue at the CSSWG for CSS features.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jeffrey
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 4, 2023 at 1:15 PM Jeffrey Yasskin <
>>>>>>>>> jyas...@chromium.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 4, 2023 at 1:08 PM Joey Arhar <jar...@chromium.org>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> > I'd like to understand better how we wound up shipping :--foo
>>>>>>>>>>> and then having the CSSWG ask us to change it to :state(foo) 
>>>>>>>>>>> instead, and
>>>>>>>>>>> what we could do in the future to avoid it happening again.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I think if this was specced before shipping that would have been
>>>>>>>>>>> better and is a practice that I (and we?) currently follow, but 
>>>>>>>>>>> this was
>>>>>>>>>>> shipped a number of years ago.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, good point: it's totally possible that our more recent
>>>>>>>>>> process rigor is sufficient, and we don't need anything new to 
>>>>>>>>>> prevent this
>>>>>>>>>> in the future. No matter what, we should expect the occasional old 
>>>>>>>>>> feature
>>>>>>>>>> to pop up and be an exception.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I do think that it's worth finding a way to write down your
>>>>>>>>>> current practice, so that it doesn't regress if you switch teams. I 
>>>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>>>> you mean that you do "hold off on shipping CSS features until they 
>>>>>>>>>> land in
>>>>>>>>>> an official draft", so let's try to record that if it's our idea of 
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> solution.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> > As far as I can see, nobody asked for the ergonomic evidence
>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.chromium.org/blink/guidelines/web-platform-changes-guidelines/#browser-engine-reviews
>>>>>>>>>>> says we can expect after Chrome has shipped a feature.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This was my bad, I didn't realize or didn't completely consider
>>>>>>>>>>> usecounters before I presented the name change to the CSSWG.
>>>>>>>>>>> I am hoping that with an answer from the API owners, I can go
>>>>>>>>>>> back to the CSSWG and potentially change it back.
>>>>>>>>>>> There is still no merged spec in HTML or CSS for this feature
>>>>>>>>>>> yet, but I have open PRs in both specs.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 4, 2023 at 1:00 PM Jeffrey Yasskin <
>>>>>>>>>>> jyas...@chromium.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> +1 on the API owners discussing this.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd like to understand better how we wound up shipping :--foo
>>>>>>>>>>>> and then having the CSSWG ask us to change it to :state(foo) 
>>>>>>>>>>>> instead, and
>>>>>>>>>>>> what we could do in the future to avoid it happening again.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It looks like the initial proposal was :state(foo); the CSSWG
>>>>>>>>>>>> asked to change it to :--foo in 2020
>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/4805#issuecomment-591547956>;
>>>>>>>>>>>> we shipped that in M90 in 2021
>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://chromestatus.com/feature/6537562418053120> (with a
>>>>>>>>>>>> feature entry that still says :state 🙃); then Ryosuke
>>>>>>>>>>>> suggested undoing that change in January 2023
>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://github.com/whatwg/html/pull/8467#issuecomment-1381645661>,
>>>>>>>>>>>> and the CSSWG accepted that suggestion in August
>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/4805#issuecomment-1663111980>.
>>>>>>>>>>>> As far as I can see, nobody asked for the ergonomic evidence that
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.chromium.org/blink/guidelines/web-platform-changes-guidelines/#browser-engine-reviews
>>>>>>>>>>>> says we can expect after Chrome has shipped a feature. It doesn't 
>>>>>>>>>>>> seem like
>>>>>>>>>>>> this feature was so contentious that the team needed to use a name 
>>>>>>>>>>>> change
>>>>>>>>>>>> as a bargaining chip, so we should probably have insisted on more 
>>>>>>>>>>>> evidence
>>>>>>>>>>>> before agreeing with the change. Maybe that's still a "should" 
>>>>>>>>>>>> instead of a
>>>>>>>>>>>> "should have": Joey's second email
>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/JvpHoUfhJYE/m/wPAHJzIvAQAJ>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  might
>>>>>>>>>>>> say that the CSSWG's resolution
>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/4805#issuecomment-1663111980>
>>>>>>>>>>>> about this isn't as committed as it appears to an external 
>>>>>>>>>>>> observer?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Should we generally hold off on shipping CSS features until
>>>>>>>>>>>> they land in an official draft, or even in a CR? Should we be 
>>>>>>>>>>>> clearer to
>>>>>>>>>>>> the CSSWG when we decide to ship ahead of their consensus that the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> bar for
>>>>>>>>>>>> changes is going up? There's not good support for this kind of 
>>>>>>>>>>>> per-WG
>>>>>>>>>>>> restriction in Chrome Status yet, but maybe it'll fit near
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/GoogleChrome/chromium-dashboard/issues/3390.
>>>>>>>>>>>> ..
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jeffrey
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 29, 2023 at 12:32 PM Alex Russell <
>>>>>>>>>>>> sligh...@chromium.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> hrm, this is another instance of bikeshedding after shipping,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and I'm not inclined to approve. Perhaps we can discuss at next 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> week's API
>>>>>>>>>>>>> OWNERs meeting?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Adding others who I know are interested in this topic.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 9:16:13 AM UTC-7 Joey Arhar
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The spec for the new syntax hasn't been merged yet, I haven't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> finished implementing it in chromium yet, and I don't have 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> estimated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> milestones yet, but I'd like to get the API owners thoughts on 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whether this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deprecation would be acceptable to help guide the spec 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussion.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I did some analysis of the top 8 websites on the chromestatus
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entry to see what the breakage would be like:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BHoO12ts0E-NQQH9AMwR2sKAIV0OPB-FA_8QXMpolz0/edit?usp=sharing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I found that most of them had the affected custom elements
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> behind display:none rules that I had to manually remove in order 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to use
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them. There was only one website where there was actual breakage 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> default, in which case the carousel buttons didn't work on 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> firefox and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> safari. If the new syntax is just for the CSS property and we 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keep
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CustomStateSet the same, then the affected website's buttons 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would continue
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to work but whatever custom styles they have (which I couldn't 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trigger)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wouldn't apply anymore.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Personally, I think that this breakage would not be bad
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> especially if we keep CustomStateSet the same, and I kind of like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :state(foo) more than :--foo. However, I might have not made it 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clear in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the spec discussions yet that we have already shipped :--foo by 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> default for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> several years.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 29, 2023 at 9:15 AM Joey Arhar <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jar...@chromium.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Contact emailsjar...@chromium.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ExplainerNone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Specificationhttps://github.com/whatwg/html/pull/8467
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Summary
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CSS custom state, which allows custom elements to expose
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their own pseudo-classes, was shipped here:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/dJibhmzE73o/m/VT-NceIhAAAJ
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This feature has not been implemented in gecko or webkit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yet. I recently made an effort to spec this feature in CSSWG 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and WHATWG,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but there was pushback to change the syntax back from :--foo to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :state(foo), and the CSSWG has resolved to do this as well:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/4805
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The UseCounter is currently at 0.03%
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://chromestatus.com/metrics/feature/timeline/popularity/3796
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This deprecation will have a window where we support both
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the old syntax and the new syntax so websites can switch to the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new one.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Blink componentBlink>HTML>CustomElements
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?q=component:Blink%3EHTML%3ECustomElements>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TAG reviewNone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TAG review statusNot applicable
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Risks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Interoperability and Compatibility
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Websites which are currently using the old syntax and don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> migrate to the new syntax will have CSS selectors which become 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> invalid
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which would impact the styling of their custom elements.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Gecko*: No signal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *WebKit*: No signal (
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/whatwg/html/pull/8467#issuecomment-1381645661
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> )
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Web developers*: No signals
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Other signals*:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Activation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Switching to the new syntax should be quite easy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WebView application risks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does this intent deprecate or change behavior of existing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> APIs, such that it has potentially high risk for Android 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WebView-based
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> applications?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> None
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Debuggability
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> None
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Will this feature be supported on all six Blink platforms
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Windows, Mac, Linux, Chrome OS, Android, and Android WebView)?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/main/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ?Yes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Flag name on chrome://flagsNone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Finch feature nameNone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Non-finch justificationNone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Requires code in //chrome?False
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Estimated milestones
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No milestones specified
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anticipated spec changes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Open questions about a feature may be a source of future web
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compat or interop issues. Please list open issues (e.g. links 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to known
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> github issues in the project for the feature specification) 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whose
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resolution may introduce web compat/interop risk (e.g., 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> changing to naming
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or structure of the API in a non-backward-compatible way).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> None
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/5140610730426368
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This intent message was generated by Chrome Platform Status
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://chromestatus.com/>.
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