LGTM to run a deprecation trial M124-M134 inclusive. May our mutations no longer be eventful!!
On Wed, Feb 7, 2024 at 3:50 PM Mason Freed <mas...@chromium.org> wrote: > > > On Wed, Feb 7, 2024 at 6:06 AM Yoav Weiss (@Shopify) < > yoavwe...@chromium.org> wrote: > >> Just to clarify - this intent is asking to start a deprecation trial for >> mutation events in 124 and ending it in 134, but you'd send a separate >> intent on the actual removal of mutation events? >> > > Yes, that’s correct. Here’s the request for deprecation thread: > > > https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/qDsKRU-cQ_4/m/P_iXWapTBgAJ > > And I’ll send a request for removal closer to 126. > > Thanks, > Mason > > > >> On Tue, Feb 6, 2024 at 5:12 PM Mason Freed <mas...@chromium.org> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Feb 6, 2024 at 3:38 AM Yoav Weiss (@Shopify) < >>> yoavwe...@chromium.org> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Note that them shipping 2.0 and everyone upgrading to 2.0 are not the >>>> same thing, and is unlikely to happen at the same time.. >>>> >>> >>> Agreed for sure. That’s why I’ve been trying to get them to confirm >>> exactly what functionality will be broken. I can’t see any breakage myself. >>> >>> What would breakage look like? Are we expecting JS to be borked >>>>> entirely? Or do we expect the events to stop firing, resulting in >>>>> hopefully >>>>> smaller and less-visible breakage? >>>>> >>>> >>> No there shouldn’t be any exceptions thrown, so the JS should be fine. >>> It’s just that those events will not be fired. The breakage, whatever it >>> is, is so small that I’ve yet been able to notice it. That’s not to say >>> there isn’t risk - there surely is. Just that I’m hopeful. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Mason >>> >>> >>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The npm package you listed, for example, would use the actual >>>>>>>> events if available, so sites using that polyfill would also count >>>>>>>> towards >>>>>>>> the event usage if the browser supports those even though that's >>>>>>>> "safe", >>>>>>>> right? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This is an excellent point that I hadn't thought of. I'm going to >>>>>>> modify the polyfill right now to *always* run. That way polyfilled usage >>>>>>> will no longer be counted. I'm used to writing polyfills for features >>>>>>> that >>>>>>> are getting *added*, where you want to avoid using the polyfill when the >>>>>>> feature is supported. This is the opposite. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> Mason >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *Gecko*: Positive ( >>>>>>>>> https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/807) "very >>>>>>>>> strong positive position" >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *WebKit*: No signal ( >>>>>>>>> https://github.com/WebKit/standards-positions/issues/192) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *Web developers*: No signals >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *Other signals*: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> WebView application risks >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Does this intent deprecate or change behavior of existing APIs, >>>>>>>>> such that it has potentially high risk for Android WebView-based >>>>>>>>> applications? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> None >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Goals for experimentation >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Ongoing technical constraints >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Debuggability >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Will this feature be supported on all six Blink platforms >>>>>>>>> (Windows, Mac, Linux, ChromeOS, Android, and Android WebView)?Yes >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests >>>>>>>>> <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/main/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md> >>>>>>>>> ?No >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Flag name on chrome://flags >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Finch feature nameNone >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Non-finch justificationNone >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Requires code in //chrome?False >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Tracking bughttps://crbug.com/1446498 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Estimated milestones >>>>>>>>> Shipping on desktop 115 >>>>>>>>> OriginTrial desktop last 134 >>>>>>>>> OriginTrial desktop first 124 >>>>>>>>> Shipping on Android 115 >>>>>>>>> OriginTrial Android last 134 >>>>>>>>> OriginTrial Android first 124 >>>>>>>>> Shipping on WebView 115 >>>>>>>>> OriginTrial webView last 134 >>>>>>>>> OriginTrial webView first 124 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status >>>>>>>>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/5083947249172480 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Links to previous Intent discussionsIntent to Experiment: >>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/qDsKRU-cQ_4/m/isA1mZ_aAAAJ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> This intent message was generated by Chrome Platform Status >>>>>>>>> <https://chromestatus.com/>. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> Groups "blink-dev" group. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>> send an email to blink-dev+unsubscr...@chromium.org. >>>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CAM%3DNeDjevtANjMn1NUK83UGyJyv4HrLCFkjs9fhL6UVov_uAkA%40mail.gmail.com >>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CAM%3DNeDjevtANjMn1NUK83UGyJyv4HrLCFkjs9fhL6UVov_uAkA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "blink-dev" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to blink-dev+unsubscr...@chromium.org. >>>>> >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CAM%3DNeDgpfzo%3DztS_MEzJg7N4vgiNXR2D-CcBwvZp9KaX_W0MyA%40mail.gmail.com >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CAM%3DNeDgpfzo%3DztS_MEzJg7N4vgiNXR2D-CcBwvZp9KaX_W0MyA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "blink-dev" group. 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