On Wed, May 29, 2024 at 10:47 AM Daniel Bratell <brat...@sarasas.se> wrote:
> That is 7 milestones. > > End at 132 inclusive instead? > Oops, off-by-one strikes again! Yes, 132 inclusive is the right endpoint > /Daniel > On 2024-05-28 18:58, Vladimir Levin wrote: > > LGTM to experiment from 127 to 133 inclusive > > On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 12:54 PM Di Zhang <dizha...@chromium.org> wrote: > >> Thanks Mike. Your explanation makes sense and we are good with 6 >> milestones to start. >> We expect the deprecation trial period to be longer to give web users >> enough time to adjust, but can request a renewal when the time comes. >> >> I have updated the Origin Trial period to start on 127 and end on 133. >> >> On Wednesday, May 22, 2024 at 7:00:52 PM UTC-7 Mike Taylor wrote: >> >>> Thanks Di - this is a useful clarification. >>> >>> You can request up to 6 milestones for a Deprecation Trial, and only >>> need a single LGTM. Renewals are possible, with sufficient justification. >>> >>> That said, if you do think that 9 milestones is sufficient for your >>> needs - that is also possible, but will require 3 LGTMs. If that is the >>> route you would like to propose, can your let us know why you think 9 >>> milestones is sufficient, and wouldn't require a renewal? What outreach or >>> comms plans do you have in place to ensure that the previously broken sites >>> will be ready for this change in ~9 months? >>> >>> Either way, please let us know how many (and which) milestonesyou are >>> requesting for the deprecation trial. >>> >>> thanks! >>> Mike >>> On 5/13/24 2:27 PM, Di Zhang wrote: >>> >>> Sorry for missing information! I haven’t created a request for a >>> Deprecation Trial before, which is what I intended this to be, and I missed >>> some parts of the process. The chromestatus is located here, which is for >>> the overall KeyboardFocusableScrollers feature: >>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/5231964663578624. The origin trial >>> section details why we are requesting a Deprecation trial for this feature, >>> which I’ve copied below. I believe this answers the questions I’ve received >>> here, but please let me know if anything else is missing! >>> >>> Summary >>> >>> The feature KeyboardFocusableScrollers changes the focusability of a >>> scroll container. This feature includes the following changes: >>> >>> - >>> >>> Scrollers are click-focusable and programmatically-focusable by >>> default. >>> - >>> >>> Scrollers without focusable children are keyboard-focusable by >>> default. >>> >>> This is an important improvement to help make scrollers and contents >>> within scrollers more accessible to all users. >>> >>> We attempted to ship the above changes, and found that a limited number >>> of sites had broken expectations around some of their components. As a >>> result, we had to unship the feature to avoid this breakage. However, given >>> the benefits mentioned above, we’d like to ship this feature again. >>> To allow more time for the affected sites to migrate their components, >>> we are requesting a Deprecation Trial. This trial (called >>> “KeyboardFocusableScrollersOptOut”), when enabled, will disable the >>> KeyboardFocusableScrollers feature. To give adequate time, we’d like to let >>> this deprecation trial run for 9 months. It might be ok to limit this to >>> 6-months, but would like the option to extend the depreciation period if >>> needed. >>> >>> On Friday, May 10, 2024 at 12:38:47 PM UTC-7 Vladimir Levin wrote: >>> >>>> On Fri, May 10, 2024 at 2:18 PM Mike Taylor <miketa...@chromium.org> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Is there a chromestatus entry associated with this intent? There's a >>>>> lot of information missing from this Intent (see >>>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/LwgSKPBivuM/m/0dRsXWhBAgAJ >>>>> as what is typical) - could you reply with the missing info? >>>>> >>>>> (Did you use ChromeStatus to generate the email?) >>>>> >>>>> Also note that origin trials can only run for 6 milestones initially >>>>> (see https://www.chromium.org/blink/launching-features/#origin-trials) >>>>> - or are you requesting a deprecation trial? >>>>> >>>> FWIW, according to >>>> https://www.chromium.org/blink/launching-features/#deprecation-trial, >>>> deprecation trials also only run for up to 6 milestones before extensions >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 5/10/24 12:36 PM, Di Zhang wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Contact emails >>>>> >>>>> dizha...@chromium.org >>>>> >>>>> dom-...@google.com >>>>> >>>>> *Experiment Goals*The feature KeyboardFocusableScrollers changes the >>>>> focusability of a a scroll container. This is an important improvement to >>>>> help make scrollers and contents within scrollers more accessible to all >>>>> users. The goal of this experiment is to collect feedback on this >>>>> change from users who might depend on the previous behavior (when a >>>>> scroller is not focusable by default) and help them adapt to the new >>>>> behavior which will ship in M126. Sites can use this Origin Trial to opt >>>>> out of the KeyboardFocusableScrollers feature. >>>>> *Experiment Risks*This experiment is to allow users to opt-out of the >>>>> feature KeyboardFocusableScrollers. There is no risk to loss access to any >>>>> important API or other functionality. >>>>> *Ongoing Constraints*None >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> OT desktop start126OT desktop end135OT Android start126OT Android end >>>>> 135OT WebView startN/AOT WebView endN/A >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *Note: *The Intent to Ship for Keyboard Focusable Scrollers: >>>>> >>>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/jzMA5vUqNDs/m/VbhNdHgQAgAJ >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "blink-dev" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to blink-dev+unsubscr...@chromium.org. >>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/c12e3f31-bd5d-4666-ab2b-10db54f26c74n%40chromium.org >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/c12e3f31-bd5d-4666-ab2b-10db54f26c74n%40chromium.org?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "blink-dev" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to blink-dev+unsubscr...@chromium.org. >>>>> >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/d7825eb3-36bf-4755-a466-e909dfc20530%40chromium.org >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/d7825eb3-36bf-4755-a466-e909dfc20530%40chromium.org?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "blink-dev" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to blink-dev+unsubscr...@chromium.org. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/6480cb3b-1336-447b-ba07-36e202ab3b4cn%40chromium.org >> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/6480cb3b-1336-447b-ba07-36e202ab3b4cn%40chromium.org?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "blink-dev" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to blink-dev+unsubscr...@chromium.org. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CADsXd2NVv_nLAXncLtFdCRe-2EB49Fz0iQ2eh8V6-EcKUy0Obg%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CADsXd2NVv_nLAXncLtFdCRe-2EB49Fz0iQ2eh8V6-EcKUy0Obg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "blink-dev" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to blink-dev+unsubscr...@chromium.org. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/1cfc88cd-b22c-4187-aefb-778f6761a2af%40sarasas.se > <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/1cfc88cd-b22c-4187-aefb-778f6761a2af%40sarasas.se?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "blink-dev" group. 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