Updated the chromestatus to 127-132, thanks! On Wed, May 29, 2024 at 7:58 AM Vladimir Levin <vmp...@chromium.org> wrote:
> > > On Wed, May 29, 2024 at 10:47 AM Daniel Bratell <brat...@sarasas.se> > wrote: > >> That is 7 milestones. >> >> End at 132 inclusive instead? >> > Oops, off-by-one strikes again! > > Yes, 132 inclusive is the right endpoint > > >> /Daniel >> On 2024-05-28 18:58, Vladimir Levin wrote: >> >> LGTM to experiment from 127 to 133 inclusive >> >> On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 12:54 PM Di Zhang <dizha...@chromium.org> wrote: >> >>> Thanks Mike. Your explanation makes sense and we are good with 6 >>> milestones to start. >>> We expect the deprecation trial period to be longer to give web users >>> enough time to adjust, but can request a renewal when the time comes. >>> >>> I have updated the Origin Trial period to start on 127 and end on 133. >>> >>> On Wednesday, May 22, 2024 at 7:00:52 PM UTC-7 Mike Taylor wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks Di - this is a useful clarification. >>>> >>>> You can request up to 6 milestones for a Deprecation Trial, and only >>>> need a single LGTM. Renewals are possible, with sufficient justification. >>>> >>>> That said, if you do think that 9 milestones is sufficient for your >>>> needs - that is also possible, but will require 3 LGTMs. If that is the >>>> route you would like to propose, can your let us know why you think 9 >>>> milestones is sufficient, and wouldn't require a renewal? What outreach or >>>> comms plans do you have in place to ensure that the previously broken sites >>>> will be ready for this change in ~9 months? >>>> >>>> Either way, please let us know how many (and which) milestonesyou are >>>> requesting for the deprecation trial. >>>> >>>> thanks! >>>> Mike >>>> On 5/13/24 2:27 PM, Di Zhang wrote: >>>> >>>> Sorry for missing information! I haven’t created a request for a >>>> Deprecation Trial before, which is what I intended this to be, and I missed >>>> some parts of the process. The chromestatus is located here, which is for >>>> the overall KeyboardFocusableScrollers feature: >>>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/5231964663578624. The origin trial >>>> section details why we are requesting a Deprecation trial for this feature, >>>> which I’ve copied below. I believe this answers the questions I’ve received >>>> here, but please let me know if anything else is missing! >>>> >>>> Summary >>>> >>>> The feature KeyboardFocusableScrollers changes the focusability of a >>>> scroll container. This feature includes the following changes: >>>> >>>> - >>>> >>>> Scrollers are click-focusable and programmatically-focusable by >>>> default. >>>> - >>>> >>>> Scrollers without focusable children are keyboard-focusable by >>>> default. >>>> >>>> This is an important improvement to help make scrollers and contents >>>> within scrollers more accessible to all users. >>>> >>>> We attempted to ship the above changes, and found that a limited number >>>> of sites had broken expectations around some of their components. As a >>>> result, we had to unship the feature to avoid this breakage. However, given >>>> the benefits mentioned above, we’d like to ship this feature again. >>>> To allow more time for the affected sites to migrate their components, >>>> we are requesting a Deprecation Trial. This trial (called >>>> “KeyboardFocusableScrollersOptOut”), when enabled, will disable the >>>> KeyboardFocusableScrollers feature. To give adequate time, we’d like to let >>>> this deprecation trial run for 9 months. It might be ok to limit this to >>>> 6-months, but would like the option to extend the depreciation period if >>>> needed. >>>> >>>> On Friday, May 10, 2024 at 12:38:47 PM UTC-7 Vladimir Levin wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Fri, May 10, 2024 at 2:18 PM Mike Taylor <miketa...@chromium.org> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Is there a chromestatus entry associated with this intent? There's a >>>>>> lot of information missing from this Intent (see >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/LwgSKPBivuM/m/0dRsXWhBAgAJ >>>>>> as what is typical) - could you reply with the missing info? >>>>>> >>>>>> (Did you use ChromeStatus to generate the email?) >>>>>> >>>>>> Also note that origin trials can only run for 6 milestones initially >>>>>> (see https://www.chromium.org/blink/launching-features/#origin-trials) >>>>>> - or are you requesting a deprecation trial? >>>>>> >>>>> FWIW, according to >>>>> https://www.chromium.org/blink/launching-features/#deprecation-trial, >>>>> deprecation trials also only run for up to 6 milestones before extensions >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On 5/10/24 12:36 PM, Di Zhang wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Contact emails >>>>>> >>>>>> dizha...@chromium.org >>>>>> >>>>>> dom-...@google.com >>>>>> >>>>>> *Experiment Goals*The feature KeyboardFocusableScrollers changes the >>>>>> focusability of a a scroll container. This is an important improvement to >>>>>> help make scrollers and contents within scrollers more accessible to all >>>>>> users. The goal of this experiment is to collect feedback on this >>>>>> change from users who might depend on the previous behavior (when a >>>>>> scroller is not focusable by default) and help them adapt to the new >>>>>> behavior which will ship in M126. Sites can use this Origin Trial to opt >>>>>> out of the KeyboardFocusableScrollers feature. >>>>>> *Experiment Risks*This experiment is to allow users to opt-out of >>>>>> the feature KeyboardFocusableScrollers. 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