LGTM3

On Wed, Nov 13, 2024 at 8:24 AM Vladimir Levin <vmp...@chromium.org> wrote:

> LGTM2
>
> On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 5:20 PM 'Akash Nadan' via blink-dev <
> blink-dev@chromium.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Mike,
>>
>> I have updated the chromestatus entry to reflect this.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Akash
>>
>> On Thursday, November 7, 2024 at 2:18:33 PM UTC-8 Mike Taylor wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you - can you please update the chromestatus entry "Supported on
>>> all platforms?" entry?
>>> On 11/7/24 4:41 PM, Akash Nadan wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> Slight update to one of the I2S questions:
>>>
>>> Will this feature be supported on all six Blink platforms (Windows, Mac,
>>> Linux, Chrome OS, Android, and Android WebView)?
>>> The attribution reporting feature will be supported on all platforms.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Akash
>>>
>>> On Thursday, November 7, 2024 at 6:51:20 AM UTC-8 Mike Taylor wrote:
>>>
>>>> OK - thank you.
>>>>
>>>> LGTM1
>>>> On 11/6/24 5:48 PM, Akash Nadan wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Mike,
>>>>
>>>> If a site continues to set the ar_debug cookie, they will still be able
>>>> to get the expected debug reporting. They do not need to stop setting it.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Akash
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, November 6, 2024 at 12:25:41 PM UTC-8 Mike Taylor wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/6/24 1:28 PM, Nan Lin wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Mike,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks. Please see the inline response.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nan
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Nov 6, 2024 at 9:24 AM Mike Taylor <mike...@chromium.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/5/24 5:10 PM, Nan Lin wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Mike,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for the quick response. Please see the inline response.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Nan
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 5, 2024 at 4:36 PM Mike Taylor <mike...@chromium.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 11/5/24 3:30 PM, 'Akash Nadan' via blink-dev wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Contact emails
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> akash...@google.com, lin...@chromium.org, john...@chromium.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Explainer
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Attribution Reporting with event-level reports
>>>>>>> <https://github.com/WICG/attribution-reporting-api/blob/main/EVENT.md>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Attribution Reporting API with Aggregatable Reports
>>>>>>> <https://github.com/WICG/attribution-reporting-api/blob/main/AGGREGATE.md>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Aggregation Service for the Attribution Reporting API
>>>>>>> <https://github.com/WICG/attribution-reporting-api/blob/main/AGGREGATION_SERVICE_TEE.md>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Specification
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://wicg.github.io/attribution-reporting-api/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Blink component
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Internals > AttributionReporting
>>>>>>> <https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?q=component:Internals%3EAttributionReporting>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> TAG review
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Still under review
>>>>>>> <https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/724> under the
>>>>>>> original I2S for the Attribution Reporting API
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> TAG review status
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Pending
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Summary
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We are landing the following change to the Attribution Reporting API
>>>>>>> focused on:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    -
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    making it easier to receive API cookie-based debug reports
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Currently the API allows cookie-based debug reporting only if
>>>>>>> third-party cookies are available AND the API caller sets the special
>>>>>>> unpartitioned ar_debug cookie.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This change makes it easier for API callers to use the API’s
>>>>>>> cookie-based debug reporting by allowing them to receive cookie-based 
>>>>>>> debug
>>>>>>> reports as long as they have third-party cookie accessibility on the
>>>>>>> source/destination sites, and they no longer need to actually set the
>>>>>>> ar_debug cookie. Third-party cookie accessibility is equivalent to the 
>>>>>>> API
>>>>>>> caller’s ability to set the ar_debug cookie.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This change makes it easier for API callers to receive cookie-based
>>>>>>> API debug reports (i.e. lower chance of misconfigured ar_debug cookies).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Explainer/Spec changes
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    1.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    Explainer & Spec:
>>>>>>>    https://github.com/WICG/attribution-reporting-api/issues/1440
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can you motivate this change a little more? I'm not seeing developer
>>>>>>> feedback in this issue that requiring the ar_debug cookie is a burden - 
>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>> why do we want to make this change now?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In the past, we've heard about feedback on missing debug reports due
>>>>>> to misconfigured ar_debug cookie (e.g.
>>>>>> https://github.com/WICG/attribution-reporting-api/issues/1195).
>>>>>> Therefore, our motivation is to improve utility, and in the meanwhile
>>>>>> bring Attribution Reporting API in alignment with Private Aggregation API
>>>>>> in terms of debugging behavior.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks - looking at
>>>>>> https://github.com/WICG/attribution-reporting-api/issues/1195#issuecomment-2018709555
>>>>>> it seems like the developer just misconfigured the debug cookie, right?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So I guess my question is: why did we think requiring this cookie was
>>>>>> a good idea in the past, and why do we not believe that now? I agree it 
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> awkward that ARA and PAA don't have similar debug requirements.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, the developer misconfigured the debug cookie and therefore didn't
>>>>> get debug reporting to work. We've also heard similar feedback on
>>>>> misconfigured debug cookies.
>>>>>
>>>>> The purpose of the ar_debug cookie requirement was to make it very
>>>>> clear that cookie-based debug reporting is tied to whether the reporting
>>>>> origin has access to unpartitioned cookies, but it's not really improving
>>>>> privacy.
>>>>> Removing the requirement would allow us to bring ARA in alignment with
>>>>> PAA, and also make it easier for reporting origins to set up cookie-based
>>>>> debug reporting while not regressing privacy.
>>>>> Therefore, we think it's fine to remove the requirement for those
>>>>> reasons and base debug reporting on whether reporting origins have the
>>>>> capability to access third-party cookies.
>>>>>
>>>>> OK - thanks for the responses. One more question: if sites continue to
>>>>> send the ar_debug cookie, will they still get the expected debug 
>>>>> reporting?
>>>>> Or will they need to stop sending it?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Risks
>>>>>>> Interoperability and Compatibility
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is not a fully backwards compatible change. The API caller may
>>>>>>> receive more debug reports overall, however this is unlikely because the
>>>>>>> API caller can only set the unpartitioned cookie if they have 
>>>>>>> third-party
>>>>>>> cookie access and they still have control over whether to enable
>>>>>>> cookie-based debug reporting via setting other API fields. Additionally,
>>>>>>> this change will not break any pre-existing API integrations or web
>>>>>>> functionality.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gecko: No signal (Original request:
>>>>>>> https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/791)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> WebKit: No signal (Original request:
>>>>>>> https://github.com/WebKit/standards-positions/issues/180)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> WebView application risks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Does this intent deprecate or change behavior of existing APIs, such
>>>>>>> that it has potentially high risk for Android WebView-based 
>>>>>>> applications?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Will this feature be supported on all six Blink platforms (Windows,
>>>>>>> Mac, Linux, Chrome OS, Android, and Android WebView)?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The attribution reporting feature will be supported on all platforms
>>>>>>> with the exception of Android WebView
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests
>>>>>>> <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/main/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md>
>>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Estimated milestones
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This feature is anticipated to ship as part of Chrome 132
>>>>>>> <https://chromiumdash.appspot.com/schedule>.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/5107034180288512
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Links to previous Intent discussions
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Previous I2S:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Intent to Ship: Attribution Reporting API
>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/2Rmj5V6FSaY>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Intent to Ship: Attribution Reporting features M117
>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/nWF61c8xu-M/m/uMmH1ewcAQAJ>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Intent to Ship: Attribution Reporting features M118
>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/Mh-mJiyJZFk/m/HlgzpphYBQAJ>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Intent to Ship: Attribution Reporting features M119
>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/6e44SBtEtcQ>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Intent to Ship: Attribution Reporting features M120
>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/jSk3xpNPzGQ/m/VZPsdYgGCAAJ>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Intent to Ship: Attribution Reporting features M121
>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/g9KiC6Rg_mA/m/V679WcWuAQAJ>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Intent to Ship: Attribution Reporting features M123
>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/NE7VGke1Bjc/m/bIX00t4CAAAJ>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Intent to Ship: Attribution Reporting features M124
>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/aregp1li6xk/m/IhBB2z8tBQAJ>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Intent to Ship: Attribution Reporting features M125
>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/9UyhI6SRyxM/m/zgWWckgWAQAJ>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Intent to Ship: Attribution Reporting features M126
>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/7UQR2lPn5KE/m/q_kL6ZiJDgAJ>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Intent to Ship: Attribution Reporting features M127
>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/LAgnyPsJyJg?pli=1>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Intent to Ship: Attribution Reporting features M128 (1)
>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/qlsv7fn0zRE/m/SK8upePCCAAJ>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Intent to Ship: Attribution Reporting features M128 (2)
>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/VKGn41wMYlg/m/VsNXktqvCAAJ>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Intent to Ship: Attribution Reporting feature M130
>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/-K2xDYuvmmA/m/Fhp564I7AgAJ>
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