Yes, you can certainly run Orca with Speech-Dispatcher and alsa. There's
configuration for that in /etc/speech-dispatcher/speechd.conf

Or, you can put together a mixed environment along the lines described
at:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PulseAudio#ALSA.2Fdmix_without_grabbing_hardware_device


Alonzo Cuellar writes:
> Hmmm,
> 
> I'll take it into concideration. the thing is I use gnome. However, if I can
> use alsa with gnome then I could have speakup and use espeakup via the
> console. There is an entry on the pulse wikki in Archlinux labeled
> 
> 
>        ALSA/dmix without grabbing hardware device
> 
> Maybe I can use that. Or if gnome can run on alsa purely then that could
> probably be done.
> 
> I've never tinkered with this sort of thing. I believe I've tried a few
> times years ago, but i never got it to work and would lose speech. However,
> I didn't have a computer at the time to ssh into my system to troubleshoot.
> 
> Alonzo
> 
> *Note: *This section describes alternative configuration, which is generally
> *not* recommended.
> 
> On 06/02/2016 02:17 PM, Janina Sajka wrote:
> > I've seen no stability issues with alsa, nor have I ever heard anyone
> > complain of anything of the kind.
> > 
> > Note also that Google adopted alsa along with the Linux kernel for Android. 
> > Note, further, that pulse depends on alsa. So, you wouldn't be getting 
> > stability with pulse, were also unstable.
> > 
> > Janina
> > 
> > 
> > Alonzo Cuellar writes:
> > > Hi Janina
> > > 
> > > Yes... Pulse is not compatible with speakup. I do miss the console
> > > environment. However, I've learned   to life with the desktop environment.
> > > Since I've not tried using a pure alsa system in ages... I'm not sure how
> > > stable it is. Pulse has been very stable in my experiences using the
> > > desktop.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Alonzo
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On 06/01/2016 08:58 AM, Janina Sajka wrote:
> > > > Alonzo:
> > > > 
> > > > If you're satisfied with working on the desktop alone, then you have
> > > > pulse support in Speech-Dispatcher and Orca. But this thread was about
> > > > console speech. I believe most of us who value the console environment
> > > > have not found pulse compatible with Speakup--which is what most use on
> > > > the console for a screen reader.
> > > > 
> > > > Janina
> > > > 
> > > > Alonzo Cuellar writes:
> > > > > hello,
> > > > > 
> > > > > My thoughts. Pulse Audio has more functionality then Alsa. Alsa is 
> > > > > great for
> > > > > a low level system meaning only command line access. If you run a 
> > > > > graphical
> > > > > environment you will not be able to get discovery of sound 
> > > > > automatically
> > > > > unless of course you write some sort of scripts for Alsa.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I happen to think though that when Pulse Audio was beginning to be 
> > > > > upon the
> > > > > Linux community most of us who used Espeakup relied on Alsa heaviely. 
> > > > > Now
> > > > > its a bit of a problem for a user who wants the desktop experience.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thats just what I see.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > alonzo
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > On 05/26/2016 09:32 AM, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> > > > > > Once pulseaudio is purged, try powering off the system then start 
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > system up again and find out what happens.  If everything works, the
> > > > > > system will reconfigure to account for the absence of pulseaudio 
> > > > > > and you
> > > > > > should have speech back again once that happens.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On Thu, 26 May 2016, Mark Peveto wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 03:32:44
> > > > > > > From: Mark Peveto <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > Reply-To: Linux for blind general discussion 
> > > > > > > <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > To: Linux for blind general discussion <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: console speech
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Tried, but it totally jacked up my sound after that.  I'm having 
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > reinstall again.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > On 05/25/2016 01:58 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> > > > > > > > Mark has to get rid of pulseaudio and all of its dependencies.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > On Wed, 25 May 2016, Willem van der Walt wrote:
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 14:10:06
> > > > > > > > > From: Willem van der Walt <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > > > Reply-To: Linux for blind general discussion 
> > > > > > > > > <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > > > To: Linux for blind general discussion 
> > > > > > > > > <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: console speech
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Get rid of pulseaudio.
> > > > > > > > > You should be able to google how to do that on your distro.
> > > > > > > > > HTH, Willem
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > On Wed, 25 May 2016, Mark Peveto wrote:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > I'm at my witt's end!  I'm working with f123, a manjaro
> > > > > > > > > > based distro, and have had really good luck, until it
> > > > > > > > > > comes to console speech using espeakup.
> > > > > > > > > > It'll speak for about 30 seconds, then I get a
> > > > > > > > > > pulseaudio error that looks like this.
> > > > > > > > > > assirtion 'p' failed at pulse/simple.c:273, function
> > > > > > > > > > pa_simple_write(). Aborting.
> > > > > > > > > > It's shot me down on every manjaro based distro I've
> > > > > > > > > > tried. Others have seemed to get speech in console, but
> > > > > > > > > > I can't seem to make it happen. Vinux has
> > > > > > > > > > it, and if i have to i'll put vinux on both machines,
> > > > > > > > > > but that seems a little nuts.  I like vinux, and am
> > > > > > > > > > using it now, but would also like the
> > > > > > > > > > opportunity to work with these other distros.  I've been
> > > > > > > > > > able to install my favorite programs, but trying to use
> > > > > > > > > > them from a terminal just doesn't read
> > > > > > > > > > well, so I need the console.
> > > > > > > > > > Oh, and before someone says google it, I've done that
> > > > > > > > > > for a week. Nothing helps.  LOL!
> > > > > > > > > > Mark Peveto
> > > > > > > > > > Registered Linux user number 600552
> > > > > > > > > > Sent from vinux using alpine 2.20.10
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