Just to clarify what I meant by (1) below, the server implemented the NOTIFY
mechanism and that didn't bother to implement parallel forking when an
incoming call arrives.

Venkatesh

On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 2:06 PM, Venkatesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I am looking at the feature from an overall solution perspective....
> Consider the following scenario.
>
> 1. The State-Agent has implemented the NOTIFication based mechanism (new
> mechanism) for enabling Shared Lines.
> 2. You put a phone that has implemented the INVITE based mechanism (old
> mechanism) for supporting Shared Lines.
>
> Both of them would claim compliance with this draft. I have been in
> discussions with multiple vendors on features as silly as call hold that I
> am wary of providing multiple choices from an implementation perspective.
>
> Venkatesh
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 12:56 PM, Alan Johnston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > Venkatesh,
> >
> > I don't understand the interop failure possibility - perhaps you can
> > elaborate?
> >
> > The REGISTER and SUBSCRIBE are sent to different entities (Registrar vs
> > Appearance Agent).   It is entirely up to a UA to do one, both, or
> > neither.  In any case, the result is well known and there is no
> > interaction I'm aware of.
> >
> > Both approaches have their use cases - if we force one and disallow the
> > other we will be reducing the utility of the approach.  Also, because of
> > backwards compatibility, we must deal with this situation anyway.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Alan
> >
> >
> > Venkatesh wrote:
> > > IMO, we should go with one approach vs. the other rather than trying
> > > to accomodate both approaches. Especially, keeping in mind the entire
> > > purpose of BLISS is inter-operability; attempting to support both
> > > approaches will sure break this goal.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Venkatesh
> > >
> > > On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 9:53 AM, Alan Johnston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
> > >
> > >     Hi Andy,
> > >
> > >     This is a useful mechanism, and it hasn't been dropped from the
> > draft.
> > >     Here is a paragraph in Section 6.2:
> > >
> > >       A UA should only register against the AOR if it is likely the UA
> > >     will
> > >       be answering incoming calls.  If the UA is mainly going to be
> > >       monitoring the status of the MA group calls and taking or
> > joining
> > >       calls, the UA SHOULD only subscribe to the Appearance Agent and
> > not
> > >       register against the AOR.
> > >
> > >     However, this approach is probably not described in the
> > non-normative
> > >     Section 5 description.  We should add text there describing it.
> > >
> > >     Is there other normative text you think we should include to
> > describe
> > >     this option?
> > >
> > >     Thanks,
> > >     Alan
> > >
> > >     Hutton, Andrew wrote:
> > >     > Hi All,
> > >     >
> > >     > In earlier discussions on the BLISS MLA draft I remember that
> > >     the option
> > >     > of the appearance agent using a NOTIFY to inform the UA sharing
> > the
> > >     > appearance of an incoming call and then the UA's using
> > >     INVITE/replaces
> > >     > to pickup the answer/pickup the call.
> > >     >
> > >     > This mechanism was I think proposed because it reduced the
> > >     impact on the
> > >     > calling UA of the multitude of early dialog's that will be
> > >     created in
> > >     > large MLA groups.
> > >     >
> > >     > However this mechanism seems to have at some point been dropped
> > >     and now
> > >     > the draft only talks about forking INVITE's.
> > >     >
> > >     > Can someone explain why the option of using the NOTIFY mechanism
> > has
> > >     > been dropped ?
> > >     >
> > >     > Regards
> > >     > Andy
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