I am looking at the feature from an overall solution perspective....
Consider the following scenario.

1. The State-Agent has implemented the NOTIFication based mechanism (new
mechanism) for enabling Shared Lines.
2. You put a phone that has implemented the INVITE based mechanism (old
mechanism) for supporting Shared Lines.

Both of them would claim compliance with this draft. I have been in
discussions with multiple vendors on features as silly as call hold that I
am wary of providing multiple choices from an implementation perspective.

Venkatesh

On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 12:56 PM, Alan Johnston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Venkatesh,
>
> I don't understand the interop failure possibility - perhaps you can
> elaborate?
>
> The REGISTER and SUBSCRIBE are sent to different entities (Registrar vs
> Appearance Agent).   It is entirely up to a UA to do one, both, or
> neither.  In any case, the result is well known and there is no
> interaction I'm aware of.
>
> Both approaches have their use cases - if we force one and disallow the
> other we will be reducing the utility of the approach.  Also, because of
> backwards compatibility, we must deal with this situation anyway.
>
> Thanks,
> Alan
>
>
> Venkatesh wrote:
> > IMO, we should go with one approach vs. the other rather than trying
> > to accomodate both approaches. Especially, keeping in mind the entire
> > purpose of BLISS is inter-operability; attempting to support both
> > approaches will sure break this goal.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Venkatesh
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 9:53 AM, Alan Johnston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
> >
> >     Hi Andy,
> >
> >     This is a useful mechanism, and it hasn't been dropped from the
> draft.
> >     Here is a paragraph in Section 6.2:
> >
> >       A UA should only register against the AOR if it is likely the UA
> >     will
> >       be answering incoming calls.  If the UA is mainly going to be
> >       monitoring the status of the MA group calls and taking or joining
> >       calls, the UA SHOULD only subscribe to the Appearance Agent and
> not
> >       register against the AOR.
> >
> >     However, this approach is probably not described in the
> non-normative
> >     Section 5 description.  We should add text there describing it.
> >
> >     Is there other normative text you think we should include to
> describe
> >     this option?
> >
> >     Thanks,
> >     Alan
> >
> >     Hutton, Andrew wrote:
> >     > Hi All,
> >     >
> >     > In earlier discussions on the BLISS MLA draft I remember that
> >     the option
> >     > of the appearance agent using a NOTIFY to inform the UA sharing
> the
> >     > appearance of an incoming call and then the UA's using
> >     INVITE/replaces
> >     > to pickup the answer/pickup the call.
> >     >
> >     > This mechanism was I think proposed because it reduced the
> >     impact on the
> >     > calling UA of the multitude of early dialog's that will be
> >     created in
> >     > large MLA groups.
> >     >
> >     > However this mechanism seems to have at some point been dropped
> >     and now
> >     > the draft only talks about forking INVITE's.
> >     >
> >     > Can someone explain why the option of using the NOTIFY mechanism
> has
> >     > been dropped ?
> >     >
> >     > Regards
> >     > Andy
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