In response to both Theo's and Christian's use cases, I think we have to 
clearly differentiate between ACH and presence. Setting and monitoring a 
profile such as "out of office" or "in meeting" or "DND" is very much like 
presence publishing and watching. Where ACH kicks in is the treatment of calls 
when such a condition exists, e.g., if in "out of office", forward my calls to 
cellphone or to voicemail. Also as part of ACH a UA needs to be able to monitor 
whether forwarding is set and under what conditions/profiles it would be 
invoked, but we can use presence to see whether a profile is activated. Does 
this make sense?

John 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> On Behalf Of Schmidt, Christian 1. (NSN - DE/Munich)
> Sent: 18 September 2008 12:41
> To: ext Shida Schubert; [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [BLISS] Need feedbacks on > ACH configuration use cases
> 
> Other use cases could be:
> 
> Use case "Call Forwarding":
> Bob has activated call forwarding in the following manner:
> - If he is at a meeting (presence-status meeting) and his 
> boss calls him, the call should be forwarded to his secretary.
> - If his wife calls and he does not answer the call, the call 
> should be forwarded to his daughter.
> If this feature is activated / deactivated, the other 
> terminals of the user should get a proper notification.
> 
> Use case "Do not Disturb":
> Alice has activated do not disturb on her mobile phone in the 
> following manner:
> - Incoming calls are still forked to other terminals of Alice 
> (e.g. fixed line terminal)
> - If her boss calls, the call will be forked to all of her 
> terminals, including the mobile phone.
> 
> Use case "Call Barring":
> Peter has activated call baring in the following manner:
>       - if he is at a meeting (precence-status meeting) or 
> local time is before 6:00AM or after 8:00 PM
>       - and the caller is neither a member of his family nor his boss.
> If this feature is activated/deactivated , the other 
> terminals of the user should get a proper notification.
> 
> Regards
> Christian Schmidt
> 
> 
>  
> 
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Im Auftrag von ext Shida Schubert
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 18. September 2008 00:44
> An: [email protected]
> Betreff: [BLISS] Need feedbacks on > ACH configuration use cases
> 
> 
> All;
> 
> I understand you are all busy with your day job, but I would
> like to encourage people to read the following text along with
> that of John's comments and provide some feedbacks even
> if it's simply expressing an agreements.
> 
> Design team needs your feedback to make progress and
> to properly scope their task on this.
> 
> Many Thanks
> Shida (As Chair)
> 
> On 5-Sep-08, at 4:06 PM, Theo Zourzouvillys wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > One of the outcomes of today's ACH design team call was 
> that we would
> > ask the BLISS list for use cases that ACH configuration may 
> provide a
> > solution for so we can extract a requirements document for the
> > configuration format itself.  So, to get the ball rolling, mentioned
> > today was:
> >
> > Alice has 2 UA's registered on a single AOR.  One is on her desk at
> > home, the other at work.  When she puts her phone at work on DND for
> > all calls, the DND lamp on her phone at home would automatically
> > detect this and light up the DND lamp.
> >
> > and I'd also like to add this case:
> >
> > Bob has somehow pre-defined 3 different "call profiles": 
> one named "In
> > a meeting" which will divert all calls to his voice mail account.
> > Another profile - "At desk" - will accept all incoming 
> calls and send
> > to any bindings registered against his AOR.  finally, the profile
> > named "Out of the office" will forward all calls to his 
> mobile phone,
> > sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  Any SIP UA that registers against bob's AOR (or
> > indeed, any 3rd party with sufficient permission - e.g, bob's PA)
> > should be able to display the currently active profile (for example
> > "At desk"), as well as provide a list of available profiles, and
> > change the currently active one.
> >
> > If you have a use case in mind, please let me know!
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> > ~ Theo
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