> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Kyzivat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 25 September 2008 04:43
> To: Elwell, John
> Cc: Schmidt, Christian 1. (NSN - DE/Munich); ext Shida 
> Schubert; [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [BLISS] Need feedbacks on > ACH configuration use cases
> 
> John,
> 
> Elwell, John wrote:
> > In response to both Theo's and Christian's use cases, I 
> think we have to clearly differentiate between ACH and 
> presence. Setting and monitoring a profile such as "out of 
> office" or "in meeting" or "DND" is very much like presence 
> publishing and watching. Where ACH kicks in is the treatment 
> of calls when such a condition exists, e.g., if in "out of 
> office", forward my calls to cellphone or to voicemail. Also 
> as part of ACH a UA needs to be able to monitor whether 
> forwarding is set and under what conditions/profiles it would 
> be invoked, but we can use presence to see whether a profile 
> is activated. Does this make sense?
> 
> I agree with you that there is a tight coupling here.
> It makes good sense to view the ACH as actions driven by a 
> policy which 
> is in turn parameterized by presence status. Mostly you 
> should then just 
> need to see that your presence status is accurate, and the ACH should 
> follow. (I would think that most people would rarely need to 
> change the 
> policy itself.)
> 
> But I don't follow your idea that the "profile" itself would 
> be presence 
> state.
[JRE] Perhaps I didn't express myself too clearly, but I think we are
agreed that there is a line to be drawn between presence and the ACH
action taken as a result of a particular presence condition. The UA
needs to be able to monitor and control the ACH action to be taken.

John
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