Hi,

If "select" is a local action in the UA to choose a "line" to use and
this determines the what is in the from header then this is I believe
out of scope for this draft which should not mention selecting lines or
AOR's as this is a different feature. The SA draft is limited to sharing
appearances of the same AOR.

Also if "select" is a local action at the UA that is just UI behaviour
then probably no need to mention it at all.

Regards
Andy

 

>-----Original Message-----
>From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
>On Behalf Of Francois Audet
>Sent: 14 July 2009 22:28
>To: Alan Johnston
>Cc: [email protected]
>Subject: [BLISS] draft-ietf-bliss-shared-appearances: Seize vs Select
>
>
>> I changed "select" to "select/seize" globally in the 
>> document.  I'm not sure it helps readability, but I think we 
>> need both terms.
>
>Here is an explanation what I meant with "seize" versus "select".
>I might have been using a definition of "selection" that is different
>from what you had in mind.
>
>In my mind, I was equating "seizing" with the concept of actually
>reserving the AOR for ones self by PUBLISHing (or NOTIFYing) the
>Appearance agent of the call state "premptively".
>
>In contrast, I was using the term "selection" to mean the local
>action (on the phone) of choosing which "line" to use (i.e., the
>"From" header). This is local because it does not require any
>publication of state to the appearance agent. The user presses
>a line key, no signalling comes out immediately (and user probably
>hears dial tone). When the call is eventually made, it uses that 
>line that was "selected" as the originator (i.e., the From header).
>
>I am proposing that if we use these definitions, then it makes it much
>clearer throughout the document what we are talking about. There are
>lots of cases where we mean "selection or seizing" (because 
>the PUBLISH/
>SUBSCRIBE is optional), and in other cases, we really mean the
>"seizing".
>
>So, for example, in 10.4, messages F1-F2 are actually a "seizing", not 
>merely a "selection".
>
>Anyways, just think about it. 
>
>I think there are people who would want to implement the "line 
>seizure" 
>concept, and people who would NOT want to implement it. If it's clear
>what "seizure" means, then it makes it obvious in the text what is the
>optional part.
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