Hi Aaron,

On Aug 29, 2014, at 18:57 , Aaron Wood <[email protected]> wrote:

> Comcast has upped the download rates in my area, from 50Mbps to 100Mbps.  
> This morning I tried to find the limit of the WNDR3800.  And I found it.  
> 50Mbps is still well within capabilities, 100Mbps isn't.
> 
> And as I've seen Dave say previously, it's right around 80Mbps total 
> (download + upload).
> 
> http://burntchrome.blogspot.com/2014/08/new-comcast-speeds-new-cerowrt-sqm.html
> 
> I tried disabling downstream shaping to see what the result was, and it 
> wasn't pretty.

        You could try to set the interface to 100Mbps with ethtool and exercise 
cerowrt BQL implementation a bit ;)

>  I also tried using the "simplest.qos" script, and that didn't really gain me 
> anything, so I went back to the simple.qos script (those results aren't 
> included above).
> 
> It looks like it's definitely time for a new router platform (for me).
> 
> Or, we need to find a way to implement the system such that it doesn't max 
> out a 680MHz mips core just to push 100Mbps of data.  That's roughly 10K cpu 
> cycles per packet, which seems like an awful lot.  Unless the other problem 
> is that the memory bus just can't keep up.  My experience of a lot of these 
> processors is that the low-level offload engines have great DMA capabilities 
> for "wire-speed" operation, but that the processor core itself can't move 
> data to save it's life.

        Could you try simplest.qos and replace HTB with TBF? We still do not 
know whether there is a cheaper option than HTB that still works okay-ish (I 
only have 16D 2U, so can not easily test myself). I guess that TBF is just as 
expensive as HTB since both shaw more or less the same token bucket algorithm...

> 
> What's the limit of the EdgeRouter Lite?

        I think this tops out at ~ 80-90Mbps combined, but there is no BQL yet. 
Given the price of tho unit it would be really nice if that would work for the 
150-200Mbps combined that seem to be needed in the near future.

> 
> Or should I start looking for something like this:
> 
> http://www.gateworks.com/product/item/ventana-gw5310-network-processor
> 
> (although that's an expensive board, given the very low production volume, 
> for the same cost I could probably build a small passively-cooled 
> mini/micro-atx setup running x86 and dual NICs).
> 
> -Aaron
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