On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 12:32 PM, Hal Murray <[email protected]> wrote: > > I don't think you can measure backbone loss using ping unless you control > both ends and ensure that both last-miles are not contributing to the problem.
Well, fractional percentages would be nice to have out of this website. I have a great title for a paper one day: "Bufferbloat and the Rise of the Too-Perfect Network". > > I think there are several different areas to investigate. The main one is > whether your packet gets handed off between two "backbone" IPSs that are > currently squabbling about who is going to pay whom how much. The obvious > example is Netflix vs Comcast. The MIT paper was awesome... But I am thinking that supply (on downlinks) is outstripping demand, along the first world edge, now... it really is hard to imagine how much more bandwidth one can consume... > I don't have any numbers, but I think over the past 5 or 10 years, all the > major ISPs have set things up so that all their internal links are > overprovisioned. You might notice packet loss when a link goes down and the > traffic patterns get rearranged. (I know you can see changes in transit time > using NTP.) > > I have an old/slow DLS link. I get close to 0% packet loss if my last mile > is not busy and lots of loss when it is overloaded. > > -- > These are my opinions. I hate spam. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Bloat mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat -- Dave Täht worldwide bufferbloat report: http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/results/bufferbloat And: What will it take to vastly improve wifi for everyone? https://plus.google.com/u/0/explore/makewififast _______________________________________________ Bloat mailing list [email protected] https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat
