On Wed, Apr 04, 2018 at 09:38:02PM +0200, Michael Welzl wrote: > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On 4 Apr 2018, at 21:23, Michael Richardson <m...@sandelman.ca> wrote: > > > > > > Dave Taht <dave.t...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> How dead is posix these days? Ietf does not generally do apis well. > > > > I disagree. > > > > IETF has lore says that it doesn't do APIs well, and so it's a > > self-fullfiling prophecy. Everyone knows it's true without any actual > > evidence, so nobody tries. > > > > Who does do APIs well today? Microsoft's API story is a disaster, > > so despite decades of market dominance, their networking APIs are not > > defacto standard. While it looks like Linux does APIs well, actually, > > it just does a really good job at getting the public APIs implemented. > > > > The IPv6 BSD sockets API is a roaring success. > > It's just not enough given MIF, DNSSD, IPsec, LISP, etc. The problem > > space has expanded. > > > > The problem is getting API work funded across Google, Apple, MS, *BSD, > > and Linux. > > fwiw, apple is on board of taps and actively involved, and the neat > project ( www.neat-project.org ) made an open source library that > runs on linux and bsd systems
Neat has a very interesting concept. If they can pull that out, it will be very nice. _______________________________________________ Bloat mailing list Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat