Thanks for the hint, I tried that too, but as I expected it didn't work, mail still ends up in admins mailbox. I meanwhile created a bug report, since I could reproduce it even on a new install from the latest iso image.
Best regards, Christoph Rodrigo Ordonez Licona wrote: > I think I have seen this > > What I did was to add the username to the alias box and voila. > > HTH > > Rodrigo O > Xnet > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Christoph Schneeberger > Sent: Miércoles, 18 de Noviembre de 2009 01:10 > To: Jimmy Gross > Cc: BlueOnyx General Mailing List > Subject: [BlueOnyx:02909] Re: Question regarding aliases / usernames (i.e. > sales, info, marketing) > > Would you mind setting up a user named marketing or info or sales under any > site, and see if you can send mail to [email protected] or sales@ > whatever the account is named ? Those names as aliases work fine, but not as > account/login names! > If you can confirm my findings, a bug report would be due...if not all my > BlueOnyxes are borked for some reason. I'll probably do a new install onto a > vm today to see if a brand new vanilla install exposes this behaviour too. > > My subject was misleading regarding aliases - its about usernames colliding > with system aliases. I think my problem is either that all my > 5 BlueOnyx installs are different than anybodies else or that nobody yet > tried to use a username like info, support, marketing or sales. > > Yes I know that you can have a username just once per server, what I am > trying to say is that you can't use info, sales, marketing, support etc. > as usernames at all, because they wont be able to receive mail, because mail > will always end up in admins mailbox due to the aliases that are only > present in BlueOnyx, not in BlueQuartz and not in any of the Cobalts I ever > had. > > So the solution was pretty simple for me, comment five lines in the > /etc/mail/aliases && newaliases and it works as desired and intended, even > for the user sales in that site. IMHO those newly introduced aliases do not > serve any purpose as I see it, its not like any RFC needs you to have a > sales account as with postmaster or such... > > Thanks for your help so far. > > Christoph > > Jimmy Gross wrote: > >> I set them up as aliases. >> >> How many servers were you migrating to your BO box? >> >> What error do you get in the GUI (bottom of screen) when you try to >> create these users? >> >> Also, keep in mind that you can only have one unique user name per server. >> For example, if you have 20 virtual hosts, you can only have one user >> named "sales", one user named "jimmy", etc. on the server (This is not >> by domain but by server. So, if you want two users named "sales" it is >> not going to happen. You can name one "sales" and the other "sales1" >> and then alias it as "sales". But, you cannot have two users with the >> same user name. User names are server unique. Aliases are domain >> unique. So each domain can have an alias "sales" but only one of them can >> > have a user "sales". > >> If you look at your cmu.log file from when you migrated them over it >> will tell you want happened to each user when it was imported (ie. an >> extra digit added to the user name, the user not copied, etc.). >> >> jimmy >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Christoph Schneeberger [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 12:11 PM >> To: Jimmy Gross >> Cc: BlueOnyx General Mailing List >> Subject: Re: [BlueOnyx:02893] Re: Question regarding aliases / >> usernames (i.e. sales, info, marketing) >> >> >> Did you create an account named info, marketing, support or sales or >> did you just add the aliases ? >> >> Christoph >> >> Jimmy Gross wrote: >> >> >>> support may be reserved but sales, info, and marketing are not. I >>> just tested me email with those three and they work fine. I have mine >>> set up as alias accounts and my user account. >>> >>> jimmy >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] >>> [mailto:[email protected]]on Behalf Of Christoph >>> Schneeberger >>> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 11:42 AM >>> To: BlueOnyx General Mailing List >>> Subject: [BlueOnyx:02893] Re: Question regarding aliases / usernames >>> (i.e. sales, info, marketing) >>> >>> >>> Hello Jimmy, >>> >>> Thanks for your reply, I may have been a bit confusing in my >>> statements I realize. I have no two sales users on the same server, I >>> just found out that BlueOnyx allows to create a user named i.e. >>> marketing or sales or support and that user will never receive mail. >>> At least that's how interpret my findings. Therefor I think BO should >>> not allow you to create users named marketing, support, info and all >>> others mentioned in /etc/mail/aliases because those users will never >>> receive mail if Im reading the sendmail config the right way. >>> >>> I reproduced this on another BO Server by just adding a user >>> marketing to the site I use for the mail account subscribed to this list: >>> box.telemedia.ch, so now if I send mail to the new user >>> [email protected] it ends up in the server admins mailbox. >>> I mentioned BlueQuartz, becuase BlueQuartz does not have those >>> Aliases, therefor the marketing and sales and whatever usernames >>> worked as mailboxes there. >>> >>> Christoph >>> >>> >>> Jimmy Gross wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> Hi Christopher, >>>> >>>> You can only have one unique user per server. For example, there can >>>> only >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> be >>> >>> >>> >>>> one user named sales. But, you can alias sales to any user on a >>>> single virtual site. For example, domain1.com can have an alias for >>>> sales as >>>> >>>> >> well >> >> >>>> as domain2.com. But, you cannot have two users on the same domain >>>> setup witht he alias sales. >>>> >>>> When you are importing sites from a server using CMU to your BO box, >>>> if >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> the >>> >>> >>> >>>> user already exist on the BO box then CMU will normally add a "1" to >>>> the >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> end >>> >>> >>> >>>> of the user name. For example, if sales already exist on the BO box >>>> then >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> the >>> >>> >>> >>>> imported user will be created as sales1 during import. This can be >>>> >>>> >> changed >> >> >>>> or modified in the CMU config file prior to import. This will >>>> usually be >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> an >>> >>> >>> >>>> issue when you are migrating two severs to a BO box. >>>> >>>> jimmy >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] >>>> [mailto:[email protected]]on Behalf Of Christoph >>>> Schneeberger >>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 8:46 AM >>>> To: BlueOnyx General Mailing List >>>> Subject: [BlueOnyx:02888] Question regarding aliases / usernames (i.e. >>>> sales,info, marketing) >>>> >>>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> I see the same symptoms as explained in >>>> >>>> http://www.blueonyx.it/pipermail/blueonyx/2009-May/001169.html >>>> >>>> However the solution seems different for me as the DNS is fine. >>>> >>>> The situation is that I imported a site from a Bluequartz with a >>>> user named "sales". If I comment the sales alias in the alias file >>>> and run newaliases the mails get delivered to the correct user (at >>>> least sendmail -bv [email protected] implies then so in contrast to >>>> having the sales alias the mails are delivered to admin which imho >>>> is correct behaviour as far as it concerns sendmail). >>>> >>>> I then went ahead, opened an account marketing in a different domain >>>> exposing no problems yet, this worked fine but mails to >>>> [email protected] now go to admin too. I first thought >>>> its just a problem of the import, ignoring the fact that sales, >>>> marketing, info etc. are forbidden as usernames but at least >>>> marketing worked as username, but not as mailbox/email-address. >>>> >>>> Shouldn't be usernames that exist in the alias file be forbidden to >>>> create new accounts with (i.e. info, root, marketing, postmaster >>>> whatever)? I'd never name an account info or sales btw, but every >>>> customer tends to do so. >>>> >>>> On the other hand, I can't imagine that nobody else has come across >>>> this problem yet and that my customers are the only ones using info, >>>> sales etc. as login names. So I am pretty sure I am doing something >>>> wrong, but I can't find at which point. >>>> >>>> Thanks in advance for any pointers/tips/hints! >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Christoph Schneeberger >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> -- >> >> > > -- "Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?" _______________________________________________ Blueonyx mailing list [email protected] http://www.blueonyx.it/mailman/listinfo/blueonyx
