A very similar output: newaliases /etc/mail/aliases: 74 aliases, longest 10 bytes, 724 bytes total /etc/mail/aliases.majordomo: 31 aliases, longest 125 bytes, 1609 bytes total
Please note the 4 difference is sales, support, info and marketing which i commented from the alias file to get mail delivered again to users with those loginnames. JW Simpson wrote: > Christoph, > > What output do you get from "/usr/bin/newaliases" ? > > # /usr/bin/newaliases > /etc/mail/aliases: 78 aliases, longest 10 bytes, 789 bytes total > /etc/mail/aliases.mailman: 190 aliases, longest 72 bytes, 11688 > bytes total > > > On Tue, 2009-11-24 at 14:19 +0100, Christoph Schneeberger wrote: > >> Thanks for the hint, I tried that too, but as I expected it didn't work, >> mail still ends up in admins mailbox. >> I meanwhile created a bug report, since I could reproduce it even on a >> new install from the latest iso image. >> >> Best regards, >> Christoph >> >> >> Rodrigo Ordonez Licona wrote: >> >>> I think I have seen this >>> >>> What I did was to add the username to the alias box and voila. >>> >>> HTH >>> >>> Rodrigo O >>> Xnet >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>> Behalf Of Christoph Schneeberger >>> Sent: Miércoles, 18 de Noviembre de 2009 01:10 >>> To: Jimmy Gross >>> Cc: BlueOnyx General Mailing List >>> Subject: [BlueOnyx:02909] Re: Question regarding aliases / usernames (i.e. >>> sales, info, marketing) >>> >>> Would you mind setting up a user named marketing or info or sales under any >>> site, and see if you can send mail to [email protected] or sales@ >>> whatever the account is named ? Those names as aliases work fine, but not as >>> account/login names! >>> If you can confirm my findings, a bug report would be due...if not all my >>> BlueOnyxes are borked for some reason. I'll probably do a new install onto a >>> vm today to see if a brand new vanilla install exposes this behaviour too. >>> >>> My subject was misleading regarding aliases - its about usernames colliding >>> with system aliases. I think my problem is either that all my >>> 5 BlueOnyx installs are different than anybodies else or that nobody yet >>> tried to use a username like info, support, marketing or sales. >>> >>> Yes I know that you can have a username just once per server, what I am >>> trying to say is that you can't use info, sales, marketing, support etc. >>> as usernames at all, because they wont be able to receive mail, because mail >>> will always end up in admins mailbox due to the aliases that are only >>> present in BlueOnyx, not in BlueQuartz and not in any of the Cobalts I ever >>> had. >>> >>> So the solution was pretty simple for me, comment five lines in the >>> /etc/mail/aliases && newaliases and it works as desired and intended, even >>> for the user sales in that site. IMHO those newly introduced aliases do not >>> serve any purpose as I see it, its not like any RFC needs you to have a >>> sales account as with postmaster or such... >>> >>> Thanks for your help so far. >>> >>> Christoph >>> >>> Jimmy Gross wrote: >>> >>> >>>> I set them up as aliases. >>>> >>>> How many servers were you migrating to your BO box? >>>> >>>> What error do you get in the GUI (bottom of screen) when you try to >>>> create these users? >>>> >>>> Also, keep in mind that you can only have one unique user name per server. >>>> For example, if you have 20 virtual hosts, you can only have one user >>>> named "sales", one user named "jimmy", etc. on the server (This is not >>>> by domain but by server. So, if you want two users named "sales" it is >>>> not going to happen. You can name one "sales" and the other "sales1" >>>> and then alias it as "sales". But, you cannot have two users with the >>>> same user name. User names are server unique. Aliases are domain >>>> unique. So each domain can have an alias "sales" but only one of them can >>>> >>>> >>> have a user "sales". >>> >>> >>>> If you look at your cmu.log file from when you migrated them over it >>>> will tell you want happened to each user when it was imported (ie. an >>>> extra digit added to the user name, the user not copied, etc.). >>>> >>>> jimmy >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Christoph Schneeberger [mailto:[email protected]] >>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 12:11 PM >>>> To: Jimmy Gross >>>> Cc: BlueOnyx General Mailing List >>>> Subject: Re: [BlueOnyx:02893] Re: Question regarding aliases / >>>> usernames (i.e. sales, info, marketing) >>>> >>>> >>>> Did you create an account named info, marketing, support or sales or >>>> did you just add the aliases ? >>>> >>>> Christoph >>>> >>>> Jimmy Gross wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> support may be reserved but sales, info, and marketing are not. I >>>>> just tested me email with those three and they work fine. I have mine >>>>> set up as alias accounts and my user account. >>>>> >>>>> jimmy >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>> [mailto:[email protected]]on Behalf Of Christoph >>>>> Schneeberger >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 11:42 AM >>>>> To: BlueOnyx General Mailing List >>>>> Subject: [BlueOnyx:02893] Re: Question regarding aliases / usernames >>>>> (i.e. sales, info, marketing) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hello Jimmy, >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for your reply, I may have been a bit confusing in my >>>>> statements I realize. I have no two sales users on the same server, I >>>>> just found out that BlueOnyx allows to create a user named i.e. >>>>> marketing or sales or support and that user will never receive mail. >>>>> At least that's how interpret my findings. Therefor I think BO should >>>>> not allow you to create users named marketing, support, info and all >>>>> others mentioned in /etc/mail/aliases because those users will never >>>>> receive mail if Im reading the sendmail config the right way. >>>>> >>>>> I reproduced this on another BO Server by just adding a user >>>>> marketing to the site I use for the mail account subscribed to this list: >>>>> box.telemedia.ch, so now if I send mail to the new user >>>>> [email protected] it ends up in the server admins mailbox. >>>>> I mentioned BlueQuartz, becuase BlueQuartz does not have those >>>>> Aliases, therefor the marketing and sales and whatever usernames >>>>> worked as mailboxes there. >>>>> >>>>> Christoph >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Jimmy Gross wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Christopher, >>>>>> >>>>>> You can only have one unique user per server. For example, there can >>>>>> only >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> be >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> one user named sales. But, you can alias sales to any user on a >>>>>> single virtual site. For example, domain1.com can have an alias for >>>>>> sales as >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> well >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> as domain2.com. But, you cannot have two users on the same domain >>>>>> setup witht he alias sales. >>>>>> >>>>>> When you are importing sites from a server using CMU to your BO box, >>>>>> if >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> the >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> user already exist on the BO box then CMU will normally add a "1" to >>>>>> the >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> end >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> of the user name. For example, if sales already exist on the BO box >>>>>> then >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> the >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> imported user will be created as sales1 during import. This can be >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> changed >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> or modified in the CMU config file prior to import. This will >>>>>> usually be >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> an >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> issue when you are migrating two severs to a BO box. >>>>>> >>>>>> jimmy >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]]on Behalf Of Christoph >>>>>> Schneeberger >>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 8:46 AM >>>>>> To: BlueOnyx General Mailing List >>>>>> Subject: [BlueOnyx:02888] Question regarding aliases / usernames (i.e. >>>>>> sales,info, marketing) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hello, >>>>>> >>>>>> I see the same symptoms as explained in >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.blueonyx.it/pipermail/blueonyx/2009-May/001169.html >>>>>> >>>>>> However the solution seems different for me as the DNS is fine. >>>>>> >>>>>> The situation is that I imported a site from a Bluequartz with a >>>>>> user named "sales". If I comment the sales alias in the alias file >>>>>> and run newaliases the mails get delivered to the correct user (at >>>>>> least sendmail -bv [email protected] implies then so in contrast to >>>>>> having the sales alias the mails are delivered to admin which imho >>>>>> is correct behaviour as far as it concerns sendmail). >>>>>> >>>>>> I then went ahead, opened an account marketing in a different domain >>>>>> exposing no problems yet, this worked fine but mails to >>>>>> [email protected] now go to admin too. I first thought >>>>>> its just a problem of the import, ignoring the fact that sales, >>>>>> marketing, info etc. are forbidden as usernames but at least >>>>>> marketing worked as username, but not as mailbox/email-address. >>>>>> >>>>>> Shouldn't be usernames that exist in the alias file be forbidden to >>>>>> create new accounts with (i.e. info, root, marketing, postmaster >>>>>> whatever)? I'd never name an account info or sales btw, but every >>>>>> customer tends to do so. >>>>>> >>>>>> On the other hand, I can't imagine that nobody else has come across >>>>>> this problem yet and that my customers are the only ones using info, >>>>>> sales etc. as login names. So I am pretty sure I am doing something >>>>>> wrong, but I can't find at which point. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks in advance for any pointers/tips/hints! >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Christoph Schneeberger >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> -- "Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?" _______________________________________________ Blueonyx mailing list [email protected] http://www.blueonyx.it/mailman/listinfo/blueonyx
