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Today's topics: * clarifications - 4 messages, 3 authors http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/f68328612393cfee * "RISE AND DEMISE" OF BM- a prospective article in media - 1 messages, 1 author http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/8936855a5e517d6b * good bye gopal - 1 messages, 1 author http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/f0afef5ca2e07bc5 * THE ROLE OF PRINT AND ELECTRONIC MEDIA IN OUR ORGANISATION - 2 messages, 2 authors http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/9feb7326bcfe5756 * 9 new messages in 7 topics - digest - 2 messages, 2 authors http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/6f93c06949d39840 * Homeopathic Alternatives to Vaccines: Bird Flu Care Tips. - 1 messages, 1 author http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/679cf6d034b5540 * Regarding pulic libraries... - 1 messages, 1 author http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/51163caf6f42daa1 * Fwd: Campaign - Back to books! - 2 messages, 2 authors http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/3cc92e453791eca8 ============================================================================== TOPIC: clarifications http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/f68328612393cfee ============================================================================== == 1 of 4 == Date: Wed, Feb 15 2006 5:45 am From: Gopal Krishna Dear friends, my name has appeared in two reports : one Dainik Bhaskar and one India Today: now to explain the things, whether it happened by accident or by my planned efforts for self-glorification: i m sending u one mail-interaction with journaist of Dainik Bhaskar, which was also sent on mgmt group. Moderators have already clarified on India Today report that it was a hasty decision taken by Kanpur Chapter team in consultation with central admin team. On Dainik Bhaskar report, ref: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BM_management/message/358 on management group, journalist asked me ya i respect yourteam sprit. ya personal fame is against the philosophy of mission. i will not use member word but we have to tell the name of some people and wat study they are doing. may i give a small list of poeple of bm?? just tell me. and it was one of my last interaction with him before media report was published and i replied him below: no Ajeet Bhai; a small list of poeple of bm is still personal promotion of individuals - against out team spirit. as i told u that Kanpur CHapter, Delhi Chapter & Pilani CHapter has done some social activities , so in talking about them, if u feel using some names will make the information more credible, u may use the name of AMitji from Delhi, Rakeshji from Pilani and Parjanya 3rd yr Computer Science B. Tech IIT Kanpur from Kanpur Chapter. this suggestion is not for promoting these members, use these names if u feel innerly that names r needed to enhance credibility of news - we r in spirit against promoting individuals, but if to promote BM as an organization, some individuals' names r used for credibility purpose then its fine with us. Coordinator Parjanya Shukla [EMAIL PROTECTED] Room No-G307 Hall-5, IIT Kanpur +919415405409 so, it is clear that I told him to use Parjanya's name from Kanpur Chapter, but he used my name in Dainik Bhaskar report. So, even here, I m 100% innocent as far as accusations of using media-eevnt for self-glorification is concerned. that's all, I have to say. Jai Hind, Gopal Krishna 4th yr B. Tech Computer Science IIT Kanpur 'Those who condemn politics to be the last resort of a scoundrel are bound to be ruled by scoundrels' - Plato If you agree with above quote, then be a part of second freedom struggle of India, Bharat Uday Mission, at http://bharatudaymission.org "We have only one passion, The rise of a Great Nation." == 2 of 4 == Date: Wed, Feb 15 2006 9:16 am From: "amit hargude" hi, first of all i dont know why the moderators dont agree that the rule has been violated or simply manipulated. secondly are the reportors so strong that they have the power in them so that on their request admin team can violate or manipulate the rule? i am contantly repeating after these media reports, i think this rule should be removed or else action should be taken against the members whos name appears, no matter if the person is founder or a part of central team or any other member. i would also like to show everyone my personal conversation with gopal regarding this rule Gopal Krishna: if only BM's name come, then no problem, but if u have time at least take permission on phone also from admin team boywonderamit: and wat iff the journalist print it without our consent boywonderamit: we cant have control over him Gopal Krishna: then it is a problem only: because rules r rules: at least names must not be used. boywonderamit: ok then if ur on a ground work and a journalist prints ur name without ur consent then u will be debarred?? Gopal Krishna: bye then; has some journalist published about BM in Mumbai. yes, one will be debarred, that's why it is duty of each member to request journalist citing this rule: no one will be so cruel to turh down this simple request as far as i see gopal point of view earlier when the rule was created was different than as of now. so i guess the admin team will take appropriate and unbiased decission on this point. and i would also like to say that gopal is not the only one whos name has appeared in the india today article. its not just Gopal but also Divya Cherala(admin team) whos name has appeared in the article. so admin team plz think about this too. regards amit hargude == 3 of 4 == Date: Wed, Feb 15 2006 5:58 pm From: "vishwanath shukla" Dear friend Amit (and all BM members) I take your concern in right perspective and i'm also very glad that that you are bold enough to stand at your point with logic. This is what expected of every BM member to be bold enough on what he considers to be right, as this will be our strength in the near future. But i'm also of the opinion that we must forgive this happeing even if it's a personal fault becoz this has happened for the first time, AND if there is no fault but "JUST A GAME OF CIRCUMSTANCES AND TIME" played upon us by the ALMIGHTY then we must forget it and start fresh activities, ofcourse, taking experiences from the previous incidents. As continuation of this may shake the MORALS of other members and bring the feelings of dobts towards the smooth working of the "MISSION". Everyone plz. take our this "MISSION" as a MISSION ( word mission is great in itself). Here i take this oppurtunity to start a new thread on "the role of media in our organisation". Plz. dear you and all BM members take out some time to bacome a part of the discussion. I specially request the central teams and the moderators just like all to express thier views. with regards vishwnath shukla jai hind == 4 of 4 == Date: Thurs, Feb 16 2006 3:35 am From: "amit hargude" well, imagine if there was a article in which name of any other member would have been printed, then what would have they done. one of the explanation from the moderator(whos name also appeared in india today article) said that just because gopal is there for the longest time we were ok with name. and the other point is why was that correspondent's request so powerful that the admin team had to violate the rule...? and also the most dissappointing thing is that "rule makers have become rule breakers" Divyashri Cherala whos a part of admin team, even her name has appeared in the article. is this the reason no action yet has been taken against them? if not then plz take some action or scrap the rule " CONDONE or CONDEMM"..! if still no action has been taken then its no point followin this rule. regards amit hargude ============================================================================== TOPIC: "RISE AND DEMISE" OF BM- a prospective article in media http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/8936855a5e517d6b ============================================================================== == 1 of 1 == Date: Wed, Feb 15 2006 6:37 am From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" bharatiya yodhao Mr Raviji & Kiranji have rightly stated the problems of going to media can be drastic as i think that they can post both "RISE OF BM" and "DEMISE OF BM" sooner and without notice so be wary of them as i am quite well connected with media through my experience as a media-co-ordinator in WOSY[world organisation of student and youth] conference 2006 and i know how media behaves but now i cant myself guarntee further actions in coming days ...i had earlier mentioned about this in my mail"media-terminator" ..for me this rule is scrapped and for other members use media care fully,cause it give both FAMEand SHAME.So BM-warriors your gates are open for freedom of expression and for gopal and other policy makers and moderators make rules which will last and cannot be broken. I know my earlier mails must have rattled few minds but i cant be polite just to appease others Thanks for your constant support rergards amit kumar chatterjee mumbai ============================================================================== TOPIC: good bye gopal http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/f0afef5ca2e07bc5 ============================================================================== == 1 of 1 == Date: Wed, Feb 15 2006 5:05 pm From: "vishwanath shukla" hi everybody, I second Dr. Reddy that we should now stop this controversy, as this is in favour of the organisation. and at the same time we should take some lesson from it, that we need to focus on these areas such role of media in our organization and should try to come up with a definite policy regarding it. and for rest i think that we doing pretty good job. vishwanath shukla jai hind ============================================================================== TOPIC: THE ROLE OF PRINT AND ELECTRONIC MEDIA IN OUR ORGANISATION http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/9feb7326bcfe5756 ============================================================================== == 1 of 2 == Date: Wed, Feb 15 2006 6:35 pm From: "vishwanath shukla" In favour of our organisation i'm starting a new thread on "the role of print and electronic media in our organisation". "becoz their friendship and enmity both are equally costly !!" through this i would like to put few questions in front of u all------ (1) should we approach media by ourslves ? (2) how should we deal with the media and their equally smart reporters if they come their own ?? What should be our course of action ? (3) Can we adopt the following attitude, i.e. that we should do some concrete activities on social and cultural grounds for few years, without paying attention to the EXTERNAL HYPE, and then after we have done some solid homework, we should slowly and steadily start appearing in front of the nation through media. Or something you all suggest !!! ours this way of working then may help us in consolidating our policies,organisational structureand above all this will give us AMPLE TIME TO EVOVLE OUR BASIC PHILOSOPHY and then to consolidate it. Since we are starting this sort of work for the first time in the country, so it is quite natural that we are bound to get some hype and above all PEOPLE'S FAITH. Thus this is our prime responsibility that we don't let down their hopes and and aspirations. One thing more we must be catious enough, to avoid fresh controversies, because there may some FORCES ( like political parties and other mean minded fellows, AS NOW WE ARE DANGER TO THEIR EXISTENCE) which may try to crush us. BECAUSE THESE DAYS IDIOTS AND ENEMIES ARE SMARTER !!. I request all BM members and office bearers ( i.e. moderatos and team coordinators ) to take an active part in the discussion, as this helps us in finalising our important policies. == 2 of 2 == Date: Thurs, Feb 16 2006 9:58 am From: Sivabalan Pandian Dear Folks, I appreciate the initiative to reflect on the role of media towards the organisation growth and to leverage the power of media to enhance our progressive movement. We need to do things in perspective of our motto "We have only one passion - The rise of a Great Nation" ! I have always being a believer of the classic maxim "Action speaks louder than words", which should also be our current focus. We need to perform deeds for the upliftment of the society and as time passes by we will shall acquire the fame deserving of the act from the same media. We can leverage the media to our advantage only to the extend needed to create an awareness amongst our fellowmen not explicitly for the growth of the organisation at this juncture. If we cant totally avoid then we can feed them our motto and probably the above maxim and nothing beyond that. Else it will tantamount to tomtoming our dreams (which every Indian is good at doing) and will make us sound like an organisation of dreamers. I might be missing some of the crux of the organisation vision coz I have been a late entrant. So, if my thought is incoherent with that, kindly feel free to highlight it. Jai Hind ! Sivabalan S. On 2/16/06, vishwanath shukla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > In favour of our organisation i'm starting a new thread on "the role of > print and electronic media in our organisation". > > "becoz their friendship and enmity both are equally costly !!" > > through this i would like to put few questions in front of u all------ > > (1) should we approach media by ourslves ? > (2) how should we deal with the media and their equally smart reporters > if they come > their own ?? What should be our course of action ? > (3) Can we adopt the following attitude, i.e. that we should do some > concrete activities > on social and cultural grounds for few years, without paying > attention to the > EXTERNAL HYPE, and then after we have done some solid homework, > we should > slowly and steadily start appearing in front of the nation > through media. > Or something you all suggest !!! > > ours this way of working then may help us > in consolidating our > policies,organisational structureand above all this will give us > AMPLE TIME TO > EVOVLE OUR BASIC PHILOSOPHY and then to consolidate it. > Since we are starting this sort of work for > the first time in the country, > so it is quite natural that we are bound to get some hype and > above all PEOPLE'S > FAITH. Thus this is our prime responsibility that we don't let > down their hopes and > and aspirations. > One thing more we must be catious enough, > to avoid fresh > controversies, because there may some FORCES ( like political > parties and other > mean minded fellows, AS NOW WE ARE DANGER TO THEIR EXISTENCE) > which may try to crush us. > BECAUSE THESE DAYS IDIOTS AND ENEMIES ARE > SMARTER !!. > > I request all BM members and office bearers ( i.e. moderatos > and team > coordinators ) to take an active part in the discussion, as this > helps us in finalising > our important policies. > > -- Smile; Siva ############################# ***** "We have only one passion. - The rise of a Great Nation" ***** ############################# ============================================================================== TOPIC: 9 new messages in 7 topics - digest http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/6f93c06949d39840 ============================================================================== == 1 of 2 == Date: Thurs, Feb 16 2006 4:27 pm From: quixton don Dear Friends & Mukesh, I am giving u a rough sketch of a project which u can start right away and it will be self sustainable i have done a study on it myself . There are at least 2,000,00 people in delhi itself who are buying world class books and after reading them they either keep them or give it to Kabari Wala .In case u can convince people that these books will be used for right cause i mean distributing to the villagers for free then they will donate these books to your organisation . Also it is not just collection of books these people will come close to u in terms of support emotional,financial,social & intellectual. Over all 1 ,000,00,00 books can be collected from one City similarly after a successful creation of a model,this project can be replicated all over the country. My dear friends i am not talking about the collection of books i am talking about getting close to the people,s Heart otherwise today normally when u approach them and tell them that u are interested in politics they look towards u as if u r a pimp . This way u can revolutionise the system of education ,inculcate reading habbits with innovative thinking,creative ideas as u will be opening 1,00000 libraries all across the country with world class books also these libraries can be interlinked through computers to world class trainers . Most of the expansive books can be uploaded on the sites in case they can not be purchased by people Regards R K Atri From: Mukesh Bansal Dear Friends, Namaskar! I would need your views on this. If BM can take up this task, it would have a lot of good impact on society. People do care about what IIT/IIM guys tell them. I think BM (central team as well as chapters) can take up the task of developing reading habit among Indians. There may not be two opinions about the usefulness of books in opening our minds, but unfortunately reading habit has reduced a lot especially after the advent of television. Another purpose of this task may be to develop the literature in Indian languages. Books in Indian languages are not available everywhere, while the books in English language are largely available everywhere. To develop reading habit in Indians, we have to make the books available in their own language (Fact: Less than 5% Indians can understand English). One more purpose that can be fulfilled through this campaign is to create awareness about environmental issues, and motivate literacy campaigns. What we can do (Raw Ideas): 1. Start a group/society affiliated to BM, that will start small libraries througout India. 2. Each chapter will be encouraged to start one or more libraries in their locality. 3. The members of libraries will spend 2-4 hours per week for Shram-Daan to raise money in order to purchase books for their library. Some ideas of Shram-Daan: Develop websites in Indian languages (Using Unicode), Prepare paper bags with newspapers, teaching youngsters/adults - basic literacy/mathematic/computer etc. 4. The central society may send some money to libraries if they are indulged in voluntary service without monetory gains. 5. All these libraries will be linked together, and will be available on internet. The members may search for a book in all libraries and may raise request for a book of his choice on internet. (This will ensure that people will have access to a bigger set of books - they are not limited to their own small library). We may rank the libraries as per following criteria: 1. 100+ books with >90% books in Indian language - Gyan Nidhi 'K' 2. 100+ books with >50% books in Indian language - Gyan Nidhi 'Kha' 3. 100+ books with <50% books in Indian language - Gyan Nidhi 'Ga' Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com == 2 of 2 == Date: Thurs, Feb 16 2006 7:49 am From: "vishwanath shukla" Dear friends, ya, this will be a very good effort from our side to our fellow friends. But if are going to collect books in this way then it take huge amount of time and effort. But there is a way out to this, if the place for the establishment of the library is decided and we get the required caretakers, then we can advertise our motive in the city clear mentioning what is the purpose of this estblishment. And we will aks the people of the city to come forward to voluntarily donate "QUALITY" books for the betterment of the society and to inculcate reading habits among the YOUNGER GENERATION. Apart from this, if we opt for buying the books then it may cost a huge amount of money plus maintainence . One thing more, we can start sharing books in the name BM in our local chapters. First we can start with ourself, surveying how many good books do we have , and then distributing among ourselves and other students who need them. I think one very good idea would be to contact, big dealers, shopkeepers and pulishing and distributing firms to donate their old stocks. vishwanath shukla jai hind ============================================================================== TOPIC: Homeopathic Alternatives to Vaccines: Bird Flu Care Tips. http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/679cf6d034b5540 ============================================================================== == 1 of 1 == Date: Wed, Feb 15 2006 10:16 pm From: Jagannath Chatterjee Here are the homeopathic alternatives to vaccines, courtesy the efforts of Dr Leo Rebello. Please printout and preserve for future reference. Also keep the mail in an important folder for quick reference in future. Please circulate this information as widely as possible. Homeopaths do not believe in earning money out of suffering of others. They seek to heal. The blessings of the patient and his/her family members is reward enough. Regards, Jagannath. Jagannath Chatterjee wrote to: Dr. Leo Rebello on February 15, 2006 asking him to clarify as to what People should do to prevent themselves against epidemics if vaccines were to be avoided. He also wants a detailed list of homeopathic prophylactics and other methods if any. Dr. Leo Rebello replies accordingly: There are NO epidemics in normal times. More epidemics are created by vaccines and drugs. Repeat, more epidemics are created by vaccines and drugs. If tiny tots were given 25 vaccines before the age of 2, one can imagine what kind of future generation we are creating. Beware of this game plan as spelt out in the secret manual called the Useless Eaters. The long ter idea is to eliminate the excess population, in the mean time control them and rake in profits. Here ponder over on what Henry Kissinger has to say : "Who controls the food supply controls the people; who controls the energy can control whole continents; who controls money can control the world". In the Information and Communication Technology age, it is possible to defeat these dark forces by disseminating the correct information. Here are the Homoeopathic prophalatics. Reproduced from my book Handbook of Holistic Healing in Tropical Diseasses : IMMUNISATION: Like in other diseases, homoeopathy has clearly established its superiority in treating viral diseases. These medicines (called nosodes in homoeo parlance) are produced from the diseased products themselves. Allopathic immunisation procedure itself is a health hazard. Vaccines wiped out small-pox, polio, diphtheria, typhoid, influenza, we are told. In effect, however, the blood contamination from the vaccines not only causes the same disease in severe and even fatal forms, but the vaccine poisons cause other diseases, such as, paralysis, blindness, brain damage, cancers, autism, etc. Hence, go in for safer, cheaper and reliable Homeopathic prophylactics. Here is a list: AIDS : Medorrhinum, Syphilinum, Tuberculinum or Thuja. (Also, Echinacea, Lachesis, Sulphur, Phosphorus and Lycopodium). Cancer : Carcinocin. Chicken Pox : Malandrinum or Variolinum. Diphtheria: Diphtherinum or Mercurious Cyanatus. Gonorrhoea: Medorrhinum. Infective Hepatitis: Nux Vomica. Influenza: Arsenic Album. Measles (Rubella): Morbillinum or Pulsatilla. Mumps: Morbillinum or Parotidinum. Polio: Lathyrus or polio nosode. Rabies: Hydrophobinum (Lyssin). Syphilis: Syphilinum. Small Pox: Variolinum. Tuberculosis: Bacillinum or Tuberculinum. Typhoid: Ars Alb. or Baptisia. Whooping Cough: Drosera or Pertusin. For the after effects of Allopathic Vaccination or Vaccinosis, or to neutralize lethal drugs like AZT - which inhibit bone-marrow production, which in turn necessitates continual blood tranfusion for many patients - give Thuja and Kali Mur and lots of fresh curds (yogurts). Then there are 12 tissue salts. These are also known as Schuessler salts after Dr.W.H. Schuessler, MD (1873) of Germany, who called them natural or physiological function remedies. The twelve inorganic (mineral) salts are essential to the proper growth and development of every part of the system. They are: Calcarea Fluor (Flouride of Lime): promotes elasticity of tissues. Used for piles, ruptures, strained tendons, varicose veins, muscles weakness, stretch marks, circulation problem, cracked tongue and lips. Calcarea Phos (Phosphate of Lime): helps build new blood cells, strengthens bones and teeth, aids digestion; used for poor circulation, chilblains, lowered vitality, muscle weakness, iron deficiency anaemia, decaying teeth and teething problems. Calcarea Sulph (sulphate of Lime): a blood constituent and purifier, for spots during adolescence, slow healing skin and wounds, sore lips. Ferrum Phos (Phosphate of Iron): constituent of red blood cells which helps to distribute oxygen in the body; used for inflammation in general, feverishness, chestiness, sore throat, coughs, colds, chills, and muscular rheumatism. Kali Mur (Chloride of Potash): asthma and bronchitis, colds, tonsillitis, sluggish digestion. Kali Phos (Phosphate of Potash): a nerve soother and nutrient, used for tension, headaches, depression, loss of sleep, irritability due to worry and excitement and indigestion. Kali Sulph (Sulphate of Potash): promotes and maintains healthy skin. For discharge from the nose and throat, poor condition of nails, hair and scalp. Magnesium Phos (Phosphate of Magnesia): nerve and muscle fibre nutrient. Used to relieve darting pains, cramps and menstrual pain, acute spasms, hiccups, colic and wind. Natrum Mur (Chloride of Soda): controls distribution of water in the body. Used for watery colds with flow of tears and runny nose; loss of smell or taste. Natrum Phos (Phosphate of Soda): acid-alkaline regulator of the cells. Used for acidity, heart burns, gastric indigestion and rheumatic pains. Natrum Sulph (Sulphate of Soda): balances body water, used for queasiness, morning sickness, digestive problems, billious attacks, colic, influenza and headaches due to. Silicea (Silica): conditioner and cleanser, eliminates waste. Used for toxic accumulation, pimples and spots, boils, styes. This is what I wrote on 25th October, 2005, when someone from UK asked me what to do in Avian Flu Epidemic. Like SARS was a false alarm, this gang of mercenary medicine mafia is now creating this false alarm on Avian Flu. Don't panic, birds have been with us for centuries. Do NOT vaccinate them. Do NOT kill them in panic for like the dead read creates plague (living rat is useful), millions of dead of birds will create pandemic. Simply relax and do NOT fall a prey to this misleading propaganda. Above all, do NOT (repeat not) take Avian Flu shot, specially nasal spray. Because, then you will go on sneezing and spread the Avian Flu implanted in the shots by furious sneezing. FOR FLU MY TREATMENT IS SIMPLE: (a) Drink lots of citric fruit juices and clear soups. (b) No solid food for 3 days. Kanji may be taken, if absolutely necessary. (c) Warm Neem water bath will give refreshing feeling, especially when there are chills. (d) Lots of bed rest with windows open / no direct fan. (e) Morning sun bathing (before 8.00 AM / not more than ten minutes, if possible). (f) There are many homoeopathic medicines. I am giving only the main ones below : Head remedy Arsenic Alb 30 -- 4 hourly. Intercurrent remedy - Influenzinum 30 or 200 / 4 pills, 4 hourly - not more than 3 doses. For rapid prostration - Kali Phos 30 4 pills, 4 hourly. Stop once the patient feels better. Pyrogenium 200 / 4 pills 3 hourly if severe back and thigh pains, extreme chilliness, rapid pulse. (g)The biochemic medicines are : Ferrum phos, Kali mur and Natrum sulph in 6 or 12 x potency 2 pills of each, 3 hourly. (h) Ginger, cinnamon teas with honey and a dash of sour lime are good. Even mint tea will soothe. (i) Fresh buttermilk, not refrigerated. Do NOT add sugar or salt. Similarly, one may take fresh coconut water. Homoeopathic and biochemic medicines are easily available and treatment outlined above is very simple. DO NOT PANIC is the root Mantra. ======================================================================= My footnote: for more details read Dr. Leo Rebello's following books 1.. Nature Cure and Yoga Therapy -- Rs.100 + postage extra. 2.. Handbook of Holistic Healing in Tropical Diseases -- Price Rs.100 + postage extra (will be published in March). 3.. AIDS and Alternativa Medicine (4th revised and enlarged edition will be out in June). Also see his websites : www.healthwisdom.org and www.aidsalternativa.org and write to him on [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Our ideal is not the spirituality that withdraws from life but the conquest of life by the power of the spirit." - Aurobindo. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. ============================================================================== TOPIC: Regarding pulic libraries... http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/51163caf6f42daa1 ============================================================================== == 1 of 1 == Date: Thurs, Feb 16 2006 7:53 am From: "vishwanath shukla" Dear friends, ya, this will be a very good effort from our side to our fellow friends. But if are going to collect books in this way then it take huge amount of time and effort. But there is a way out to this, if the place for the establishment of the library is decided and we get the required caretakers, then we can advertise our motive in the city clear mentioning what is the purpose of this estblishment. And we will aks the people of the city to come forward to voluntarily donate "QUALITY" books for the betterment of the society and to inculcate reading habits among the YOUNGER GENERATION. Apart from this, if we opt for buying the books then it may cost a huge amount of money plus maintainence . One thing more, we can start sharing books in the name BM in our local chapters. First we can start with ourself, surveying how many good books do we have , and then distributing among ourselves and other students who need them. I think one very good idea would be to contact, big dealers, shopkeepers and pulishing and distributing firms to donate their old stocks. vishwanath shukla jai hind ------------------------------------------------ From: Mukesh Bansal Dear Friends, Namaskar! I would need your views on this. If BM can take up this task, it would have a lot of good impact on society. People do care about what IIT/IIM guys tell them. I think BM (central team as well as chapters) can take up the task of developing reading habit among Indians. There may not be two opinions about the usefulness of books in opening our minds, but unfortunately reading habit has reduced a lot especially after the advent of television. Another purpose of this task may be to develop the literature in Indian languages. Books in Indian languages are not available everywhere, while the books in English language are largely available everywhere. To develop reading habit in Indians, we have to make the books available in their own language (Fact: Less than 5% Indians can understand English). One more purpose that can be fulfilled through this campaign is to create awareness about environmental issues, and motivate literacy campaigns. What we can do (Raw Ideas): 1. Start a group/society affiliated to BM, that will start small libraries througout India. 2. Each chapter will be encouraged to start one or more libraries in their locality. 3. The members of libraries will spend 2-4 hours per week for Shram-Daan to raise money in order to purchase books for their library. Some ideas of Shram-Daan: Develop websites in Indian languages (Using Unicode), Prepare paper bags with newspapers, teaching youngsters/adults - basic literacy/mathematic/computer etc. 4. The central society may send some money to libraries if they are indulged in voluntary service without monetory gains. 5. All these libraries will be linked together, and will be available on internet. The members may search for a book in all libraries and may raise request for a book of his choice on internet. (This will ensure that people will have access to a bigger set of books - they are not limited to their own small library). We may rank the libraries as per following criteria: 1. 100+ books with >90% books in Indian language - Gyan Nidhi 'K' 2. 100+ books with >50% books in Indian language - Gyan Nidhi 'Kha' 3. 100+ books with <50% books in Indian language - Gyan Nidhi 'Ga' ============================================================================== TOPIC: Fwd: Campaign - Back to books! http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/3cc92e453791eca8 ============================================================================== == 1 of 2 == Date: Thurs, Feb 16 2006 9:35 am From: Mukesh Bansal Dear BM friends, I am not sure whether BM may be willing to take up such campaigns. Can the senior members / moderators suggest how to proceed about it? -- "We have only one passion, The rise of a great nation." Shubham Mukesh Bansal ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Feb 16, 2006 10:22 AM Subject: Re: Campaign - Back to books! To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Mukesh ji 1. We can start as attachments 2. We can try http://yousendit.com if any of these books are large 3. My suggestions and BM comments ------------------------------------------------ As far as I can see, my original suggestion was NOT found in the BM Google Group (may have been moderated / or because of technical reasons bounced ) Could you please forward your reply below with my original mail to the BM google group ? regards Vinayak Mukesh Bansal - [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Dear Vinayak ji > > Yes, surely. We can do that straight-away. We may put the collection of > E-documents on a webpage, and the surfers/readers may download from there. > > I don't know if we can get a webpage on BM site OR we need to do this > outside BM (For example, we can host on geocities for free). I haven't > received any opinion from BM central team. I would be very glad if BM > can take up this task. > > -- > "We have only one passion, > The rise of a great nation." > > Shubham > Mukesh Bansal > > > On 2/14/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > > > > Hi Mukesh > > > I'm new here. I read your message just today. This seems to be a > great idea > > For starters we can start by exchanging E BOOKS that members of BM > mission may have > > I've seen many other investment related google groups do that (i.e.) > share e books, e publications in PDF format > > Request your thoughts on sharing E books in PDF (Adobe) or other formats > to start with > > regards > > Vinayak > > > == 2 of 2 == Date: Thurs, Feb 16 2006 3:19 pm From: Moderator BharatUdayMission Dear Members, As of now the central team members are not in a single place. So its difficult per se for central team to take up. What we can do is, if some chapter/member take initiative, we will help in sharing across other chapters and members. All social activites need physical participation. So all such intiative have to come from chapters/members. We in central team can help in getting information across. As of now mechanism of financial contribution to central team has not been developed. So even funding is also not possible from central team. BM needs initiatives from everyone. There is no one to stop you doing anything in interest of nation/BM. You can take initiative as you like and set examples. Please make a call to local members on main group for any initiative with possible action plan. We will be more than happy to promote the same. If you feel any more clarification/help is needed, please talk to Ground Work Team [EMAIL PROTECTED] Regards, Moderators On 2/16/06, Mukesh Bansal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dear BM friends, > > I am not sure whether BM may be willing to take up such campaigns. Can the > senior members / moderators suggest how to proceed about it? > > -- > "We have only one passion, > The rise of a great nation." > > Shubham > Mukesh Bansal > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Feb 16, 2006 10:22 AM > Subject: Re: Campaign - Back to books! > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Dear Mukesh ji > > 1. We can start as attachments > > 2. We can try http://yousendit.com if any of these books are large > > 3. My suggestions and BM comments > ------------------------------------------------ > > As far as I can see, my original suggestion was NOT found in the BM > Google Group (may have been moderated / or because of technical reasons > bounced ) > > Could you please forward your reply below with my original mail to the > BM google group ? > > regards > Vinayak > > > > Mukesh Bansal - [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Dear Vinayak ji > > > > Yes, surely. We can do that straight-away. We may put the collection of > > E-documents on a webpage, and the surfers/readers may download from > there. > > > > I don't know if we can get a webpage on BM site OR we need to do this > > outside BM (For example, we can host on geocities for free). I haven't > > received any opinion from BM central team. I would be very glad if BM > > can take up this task. > > > > -- > > "We have only one passion, > > The rise of a great nation." > > > > Shubham > > Mukesh Bansal > > > > > > On 2/14/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > <mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>* > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > <mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Mukesh > > > > > > I'm new here. I read your message just today. This seems to be a > > great idea > > > > For starters we can start by exchanging E BOOKS that members of BM > > mission may have > > > > I've seen many other investment related google groups do that (i.e.) > > share e books, e publications in PDF format > > > > Request your thoughts on sharing E books in PDF (Adobe) or other > formats > > to start with > > > > regards > > > > Vinayak > > > > > > > > > > > -- "We have only one Passion The Rise of a Great Nation." www.bharatudaymission.org ============================================================================== You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BM_discussion" group. 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