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Today's topics: * Essential Tips for a Happy and Healthy India. - 2 messages, 2 authors http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/9879a2cf269a5184 * China juggles the urban and rural divide. - 2 messages, 1 author http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/fe356b6788a824ce * Climate scientists issue dire warning. - 1 messages, 1 author http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/c86a561097e0892f * Discussion on Naxalisam and its impact. - 2 messages, 2 authors http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/a044708275fc4bc8 * Discussion in Hindi - 5 messages, 4 authors http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/8216909c09309588 ============================================================================== TOPIC: Essential Tips for a Happy and Healthy India. http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/9879a2cf269a5184 ============================================================================== == 1 of 2 == Date: Wed, Mar 1 2006 3:14 am From: Jagannath Chatterjee Dear Friends, Perhaps the only way to return to the good health that our ancestors enjoyed is to completely return to natural indigenous methods and to stop tinkering with nature. All the frontline thinkers in issues as diverse as health, to education, climate, farming and industry, are talking of this urgent need to change our priorities. Health is not only our wealth but is also a deep personal happiness, a balanced sense of innate satisfaction, and the inward spontaneous urge to increase the happiness quotient of the world. For we can be happy and healthy only if the entire world is happy and healthy. As a stepping stone towards achieving the above objective, I propose that; 1. We should increase the holistic health budget from the current 3% to 25%. 2. We should reorganise the medical education setup so that students can learn about all methods of healing and also get experienced teachers who can teach them the subtle nuances of holistic healing. (Our Health Minister has proposed this). 3. We should try to get the cream of the students who are interested in studying medicine, to study holism sincerely and practice it with integrity. 4. We should spread awareness about the holistic healing principles. 5. Babies should be treated holistically as far as possible so that they develop a better immunity base, thus leading to healthy, productive citizens. This will substantially reduce the current mammoth health expenditure. 6. Getting the holistic principles introduced into the school/college curicullums as compulsory subjects. 7. The teaching of yoga and meditation to all sections of the society should be undertaken with urgency. 8. Introduction of value based education; ( also the teaching of the Samkhya philosophy, and the Vedic world view, the concept of One World - One Family.) 9. Strengthening of the family structure. Teaching the benefits of a restrained, moral life and also the need for respect between partners in marriage, as well as between parents and children. 10. Making health and education totally free for the poor and needy. 11. Making both these sectors open to caring, self sacrificing individuals who seek to serve humanity with a selfless motive. 12.Teaching the general population the basics of naturopathy and reflexology. (This has already been started by the International Institute of Naturopathy which has its HQ at Pune. ) 13. Spreading awareness about the dangers of and fighting peacefully against harmful chemicals in our environment and food. 14. Encouraging the organic farming movement, reducing pollution and campaigning for vegetarianism. 15. Reducing tensions at the work place by ensuring better working conditions, better employer-employee interaction, optimum working time etc. 16. Teaching students with practical instructions on how to live judiciously, with an eye towards developing better, healthy individuals, and giving them sufficient time for appropriate recreation. 17. Caring about our environment and having fellow feeling towards other species. I would request you all to kindly add to and supplement/criticise these rough suggestions of mine. Please remember, we can do it. Love, Respect & Regards, Jagannath Chatterjee, Health & Environment Activist. "Our ideal is not the spirituality that withdraws from life but the conquest of life by the power of the spirit." - Aurobindo. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. == 2 of 2 == Date: Wed, Mar 1 2006 9:11 pm From: "Sivabalan Pandian" Dear Jagannath, I wish to bring it to your notice that probably in your desire to educate the mass you are forcing them to shut off totally to your mails. They are too lenthy and in this fast paced world .. anything tatz not precise will be junked. Since, I see some values in your mail, I would request you to tailor it to the need of the hour by puttin on only the cruz of the issue with pointers to other links for details. Thanks. Rgds, Sivabalan S. On 3/1/06, Jagannath Chatterjee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dear Friends, > > Perhaps the only way to return to the good health that our ancestors > enjoyed is to completely return to natural indigenous methods and to stop > tinkering with nature. All the frontline thinkers in issues as diverse as > health, to education, climate, farming and industry, are talking of this > urgent need to change our priorities. Health is not only our wealth but is > also a deep personal happiness, a balanced sense of innate satisfaction, > and the inward spontaneous urge to increase the happiness quotient of the > world. For we can be happy and healthy only if the entire world is happy > and healthy. > > As a stepping stone towards achieving the above objective, I propose that; > > 1. We should increase the holistic health budget from the current 3% to > 25%. > 2. We should reorganise the medical education setup so that students can > learn about all methods of healing and also get experienced teachers who can > teach them the subtle nuances of holistic healing. (Our Health Minister has > proposed this). > 3. We should try to get the cream of the students who are interested in > studying medicine, to study holism sincerely and practice it with integrity. > 4. We should spread awareness about the holistic healing principles. > 5. Babies should be treated holistically as far as possible so that they > develop a better immunity base, thus leading to healthy, > productive citizens. This will substantially reduce the current > mammoth health expenditure. > 6. Getting the holistic principles introduced into the school/college > curicullums as compulsory subjects. > 7. The teaching of yoga and meditation to all sections of the society > should be undertaken with urgency. > 8. Introduction of value based education; ( also the teaching of the > Samkhya philosophy, and the Vedic world view, the concept of One World - One > Family.) > 9. Strengthening of the family structure. Teaching the benefits of a > restrained, moral life and also the need for respect between partners in > marriage, as well as between parents and children. > 10. Making health and education totally free for the poor and needy. > 11. Making both these sectors open to caring, self sacrificing individuals > who seek to serve humanity with a selfless motive. > 12.Teaching the general population the basics of naturopathy and > reflexology. (This has already been started by the International Institute > of Naturopathy which has its HQ at Pune. ) > 13. Spreading awareness about the dangers of and fighting > peacefully against harmful chemicals in our environment and food. > 14. Encouraging the organic farming movement, reducing pollution > and campaigning for vegetarianism. > 15. Reducing tensions at the work place by ensuring better working > conditions, better employer-employee interaction, optimum working time etc. > > 16. Teaching students with practical instructions on how to live > judiciously, with an eye towards developing better, healthy individuals, > and giving them sufficient time for appropriate recreation. > 17. Caring about our environment and having fellow feeling towards other > species. > > I would request you all to kindly add to and supplement/criticise these > rough suggestions of mine. > > Please remember, we can do it. > > Love, Respect & Regards, > Jagannath Chatterjee, > Health & Environment Activist. > > > > > "Our ideal is not the spirituality that withdraws from life but the > conquest of life by the power of the spirit." - Aurobindo. > > ------------------------------ > Yahoo! Mail > Use > Photomail<http://us.rd.yahoo.com/mail_us/taglines/pmall2/*http://photomail.mail.yahoo.com>to > share photos without annoying attachments. > > -- Smile; Siva ############################# ***** "We have only one passion. - The rise of a Great Nation" ***** ############################# ============================================================================== TOPIC: China juggles the urban and rural divide. http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/fe356b6788a824ce ============================================================================== == 1 of 2 == Date: Wed, Mar 1 2006 4:16 am From: Jagannath Chatterjee Back to the villages in China Pallavi Aiyar http://www.hindu.com/2006/03/01/stories/2006030104541100.htm The Chinese Government last week announced an ambitious new rural policy that focusses less on indiscriminate growth and more on redistribution of resources and rebalancing of incomes. CHINA'S DOUBLE-DIGIT economic growth has led to the creation of shiny cities, bathed in neon. But the inequalities that have also resulted from this economic metamorphosis are increasingly hard to disguise with urban glitter. Following mass protests in the countryside in the face of corruption and poverty in recent years, the Chinese Government last week announced an ambitious new rural policy, which crystallises the leadership's ongoing efforts at giving fresh direction to China's economic policies. The focus of these new policies is less on indiscriminate growth and more on redistribution of resources and rebalancing of incomes. At the core of these efforts, termed the creation of the "New Socialist Countryside," is beefed up government spending on basic education and medical care, additional subsidies for farmers, and large injections of funding in rural infrastructure projects. This rural initiative is likely to be the centrepiece of the new five-year plan (for 2006-2010) that will be deliberated by the National People's Congress (NPC), China's legislature, during its annual meeting on March 5. Some initial spending figures are also expected to be announced during the NPC meet. The new plan has been three years in the making. Ever since taking office in late 2002 and early 2003, China's President Hu Jintao and Premier Wen Jiabao have repeatedly stated that their administration's top priority is to tackle the rich-poor gap, symbolised most baldly by the urban-rural divide. China's 800 million-odd peasants comprise 70 per cent of the country's total population, but with an average annual income of $400 (a third of average urban incomes) they make up only around 40 per cent of domestic consumption. The gap is exacerbated when factoring in health care and other social benefits provided to many urban residents but lacking in the countryside. The new initiative also reflects the Government's alarm at the escalation in the number of peasant protests in the last few years. According to the Ministry of Public Security, in 2005 there were a total of 87,000 mass protests across the country, expressing public anger against official corruption, illegal land seizures, and unpaid wages and pensions. The number of such protests has seen a more than 400 per cent increase over the last decade. Many of the efforts outlined in the new rural plan have in fact already been experimented with in pilot projects. Notable among the various schemes aimed at improving the lot of farmers is the abolishing of the hundreds of years old agricultural tax from January of this year. In December 2005, the NPC provisionally approved an additional budget of 100 billion yuan ($12.5 billion) a year to rural areas, the bulk of which 78 billion yuan will go in making up the loss of revenue to provincial governments following the abolition of the tax. But lifting rural incomes through subsidies and tax cuts is only part of the challenge the Chinese Government faces. The sectors of greatest neglect in rural areas have, in fact, been health and education services. These used to be free but have over the years become privatised and out of the financial reach of most rural residents. Moreover, the centre has for the large part left it to cash-strapped local governments to come up with the bulk of funding for these services. But as Anjana Mangalgiri, Education officer for UNICEF's Beijing office, points out, "Local officials are promoted and rewarded on the basis of their ability to generate physically tangible examples of `progress' like roads and factories. Education and health, the softer sides of development, are not rewarded in the same way and do not bring short-term gains for the officials, so they are neglected." Fall in health spending The Government's share in national health spending has plunged from close to 100 per cent in the heyday of the communist revolution to about 15 per cent today. Less than 10 per cent of China's rural population has any medical insurance. Moreover, big cities in China consume 80 per cent of the country's medical resources although only a third of the Chinese population lives there. In 2000, the World Health Organisation ranked China 144th amongst 191 countries on the basis of fairness of access to health care and fairness of individual contributions to cost. Even India ranked ahead at 112. At a press conference in Beijing last week, Chen Xiwen, the top government adviser on rural issues, stressed that the Government was aware that "the [urban-rural] divide is even more compelling for social undertakings such as education and health," and these will be on top of the policy priority list in the coming five-year plan period. While it has not been announced how much will specifically be spent on rural health care, efforts to improve access and affordability to medical services are likely to involve cooperative health care networks where medical costs will be covered through a combination of contributions from the central and local governments as well as the farmers themselves. China's new policy also promises that by 2007 rural students will no longer have to pay for textbooks and heating in schools. Students from poorer families will receive boarding and transport subsidies. Proposals to hike the remuneration for teachers in rural areas are in the process of being considered, as is a plan to make it compulsory for teachers from cities to work for part of the year in the countryside. The Central Government recently promised an additional 218 billion yuan ($26.9 billion) over the next five years to boost basic education in the countryside. Most significantly, local governments have been warned that they will be held to account for progress made on social services and that their promotions will no longer depend exclusively on their attracting investment for hard infrastructure projects. Critical lacuna But many analysts say that the critical lacuna in the new rural initiative is that it leaves unresolved the fundamental issue of whether farmers will be allowed to buy and sell land. Under the Chinese constitution, farmland is held collectively by the villages, so that individual farmers who have leases are easily exploited by local officials who claim the land for development projects. Farmers are usually given woefully inadequate compensation in return. Moreover, internal migration for rural residents to China's bigger cities remains restricted, narrowing their options and ability to climb out of poverty. In the span of some 25 years, China has gone from being one of the world's most equal, albeit poor societies to the fourth largest economy in the world with one of the worst rich-poor imbalances. China's gini index a commonly used statistical measure of inequality where 0 represents perfect equality and 100 perfect inequality of 44.7 is worse even than that of India's 32.5, according to the UNDP's 2005 Human Development Report. Given this situation, the success of China's new rural plan will be crucial to the sustainability of the country's economic dynamism in the long-run. "Our ideal is not the spirituality that withdraws from life but the conquest of life by the power of the spirit." - Aurobindo. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. == 2 of 2 == Date: Wed, Mar 1 2006 4:16 am From: Jagannath Chatterjee Back to the villages in China Pallavi Aiyar http://www.hindu.com/2006/03/01/stories/2006030104541100.htm The Chinese Government last week announced an ambitious new rural policy that focusses less on indiscriminate growth and more on redistribution of resources and rebalancing of incomes. CHINA'S DOUBLE-DIGIT economic growth has led to the creation of shiny cities, bathed in neon. But the inequalities that have also resulted from this economic metamorphosis are increasingly hard to disguise with urban glitter. Following mass protests in the countryside in the face of corruption and poverty in recent years, the Chinese Government last week announced an ambitious new rural policy, which crystallises the leadership's ongoing efforts at giving fresh direction to China's economic policies. The focus of these new policies is less on indiscriminate growth and more on redistribution of resources and rebalancing of incomes. At the core of these efforts, termed the creation of the "New Socialist Countryside," is beefed up government spending on basic education and medical care, additional subsidies for farmers, and large injections of funding in rural infrastructure projects. This rural initiative is likely to be the centrepiece of the new five-year plan (for 2006-2010) that will be deliberated by the National People's Congress (NPC), China's legislature, during its annual meeting on March 5. Some initial spending figures are also expected to be announced during the NPC meet. The new plan has been three years in the making. Ever since taking office in late 2002 and early 2003, China's President Hu Jintao and Premier Wen Jiabao have repeatedly stated that their administration's top priority is to tackle the rich-poor gap, symbolised most baldly by the urban-rural divide. China's 800 million-odd peasants comprise 70 per cent of the country's total population, but with an average annual income of $400 (a third of average urban incomes) they make up only around 40 per cent of domestic consumption. The gap is exacerbated when factoring in health care and other social benefits provided to many urban residents but lacking in the countryside. The new initiative also reflects the Government's alarm at the escalation in the number of peasant protests in the last few years. According to the Ministry of Public Security, in 2005 there were a total of 87,000 mass protests across the country, expressing public anger against official corruption, illegal land seizures, and unpaid wages and pensions. The number of such protests has seen a more than 400 per cent increase over the last decade. Many of the efforts outlined in the new rural plan have in fact already been experimented with in pilot projects. Notable among the various schemes aimed at improving the lot of farmers is the abolishing of the hundreds of years old agricultural tax from January of this year. In December 2005, the NPC provisionally approved an additional budget of 100 billion yuan ($12.5 billion) a year to rural areas, the bulk of which 78 billion yuan will go in making up the loss of revenue to provincial governments following the abolition of the tax. But lifting rural incomes through subsidies and tax cuts is only part of the challenge the Chinese Government faces. The sectors of greatest neglect in rural areas have, in fact, been health and education services. These used to be free but have over the years become privatised and out of the financial reach of most rural residents. Moreover, the centre has for the large part left it to cash-strapped local governments to come up with the bulk of funding for these services. But as Anjana Mangalgiri, Education officer for UNICEF's Beijing office, points out, "Local officials are promoted and rewarded on the basis of their ability to generate physically tangible examples of `progress' like roads and factories. Education and health, the softer sides of development, are not rewarded in the same way and do not bring short-term gains for the officials, so they are neglected." Fall in health spending The Government's share in national health spending has plunged from close to 100 per cent in the heyday of the communist revolution to about 15 per cent today. Less than 10 per cent of China's rural population has any medical insurance. Moreover, big cities in China consume 80 per cent of the country's medical resources although only a third of the Chinese population lives there. In 2000, the World Health Organisation ranked China 144th amongst 191 countries on the basis of fairness of access to health care and fairness of individual contributions to cost. Even India ranked ahead at 112. At a press conference in Beijing last week, Chen Xiwen, the top government adviser on rural issues, stressed that the Government was aware that "the [urban-rural] divide is even more compelling for social undertakings such as education and health," and these will be on top of the policy priority list in the coming five-year plan period. While it has not been announced how much will specifically be spent on rural health care, efforts to improve access and affordability to medical services are likely to involve cooperative health care networks where medical costs will be covered through a combination of contributions from the central and local governments as well as the farmers themselves. China's new policy also promises that by 2007 rural students will no longer have to pay for textbooks and heating in schools. Students from poorer families will receive boarding and transport subsidies. Proposals to hike the remuneration for teachers in rural areas are in the process of being considered, as is a plan to make it compulsory for teachers from cities to work for part of the year in the countryside. The Central Government recently promised an additional 218 billion yuan ($26.9 billion) over the next five years to boost basic education in the countryside. Most significantly, local governments have been warned that they will be held to account for progress made on social services and that their promotions will no longer depend exclusively on their attracting investment for hard infrastructure projects. Critical lacuna But many analysts say that the critical lacuna in the new rural initiative is that it leaves unresolved the fundamental issue of whether farmers will be allowed to buy and sell land. Under the Chinese constitution, farmland is held collectively by the villages, so that individual farmers who have leases are easily exploited by local officials who claim the land for development projects. Farmers are usually given woefully inadequate compensation in return. Moreover, internal migration for rural residents to China's bigger cities remains restricted, narrowing their options and ability to climb out of poverty. In the span of some 25 years, China has gone from being one of the world's most equal, albeit poor societies to the fourth largest economy in the world with one of the worst rich-poor imbalances. China's gini index a commonly used statistical measure of inequality where 0 represents perfect equality and 100 perfect inequality of 44.7 is worse even than that of India's 32.5, according to the UNDP's 2005 Human Development Report. Given this situation, the success of China's new rural plan will be crucial to the sustainability of the country's economic dynamism in the long-run. "Our ideal is not the spirituality that withdraws from life but the conquest of life by the power of the spirit." - Aurobindo. --------------------------------- Brings words and photos together (easily) with PhotoMail - it's free and works with Yahoo! Mail. ============================================================================== TOPIC: Climate scientists issue dire warning. http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/c86a561097e0892f ============================================================================== == 1 of 1 == Date: Wed, Mar 1 2006 10:48 pm From: "Dr. N.S. REDDY" Dear Mr. Jagannath, There is no doubt of your ability or your Intensions. My concern is How can those things will be relevant in the group. We started here as DISCUSSION Group. You posted 19 mails here. I hardly see any one discussing on your topics. I am a metallurgist and materials scientist by profession, if I post about the POSCO Venture in Orissa, it would not be interesting to you and others. For Example, caste System in India. definitely it is easy to understand and discuss to all the people. Your topics are not like that. Apart from all, you are posting all your messages in many groups, I request you please post your specific mails directly to BM_discussions. Not only me, most of the people are not having enough knowledge to take part in discussions of your Topics. with best wishes nsreddy.... On 3/1/06, Jagannath Chatterjee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dear Mr Reddy, > > I am a health as well as environment activist. I too think deeply about > India. Please tell me, can we build a vibrant India without making India > healthy once again, or if we let the environment degrade the way it is going > now? Both these aspects cannot be ignored. > > Regards, > Jagannath. > > *"Dr. N.S. REDDY" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote: > > Dear Moderators, > > Good Morning to every one. > Mr. Jagannath Chattarjee posting various (7 or 8) mails, which enhances > our Knowledge definitely. Those mails are lengthy and need time to read and > understand. > > Dear Mr. Jagannath, I would like to request you that, please post your > mails, which will be useful and relavant to BM. You are posting your mails > to many groups (Around 15 Groups) and adding this group in the list. > > > > > "Our ideal is not the spirituality that withdraws from life but the > conquest of life by the power of the spirit." - Aurobindo. > > ------------------------------ > Relax. Yahoo! Mail virus > scanning<http://us.rd.yahoo.com/mail_us/taglines/virusall/*http://communications.yahoo.com/features.php?page=221>helps > detect nasty viruses! > > -- Dr. N. Subba Reddy POSTECH, Pohang, KOREA Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 82-54-279-5215 Join us and be a part of the next Indian Revloution led by youth! www.bharatudaymission.org ============================================================================== TOPIC: Discussion on Naxalisam and its impact. http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/a044708275fc4bc8 ============================================================================== == 1 of 2 == Date: Wed, Mar 1 2006 10:53 pm From: "Dr. N.S. REDDY" My Dear Friends, Let us Open a Discussion on " Naxalisam" How can we deal it? what will be our BM Stand on Naxals. with best regards nsreddy. == 2 of 2 == Date: Wed, Mar 1 2006 8:44 am From: BhanuPrakash Singh Dear Dr. Reddy, The seed of Naxalism is in explotation of poor masses often using administrative machinery. The corruption has gone deep in our society. As you understand only rich can exploit the poor, the poor who does not have any meanns of making good the loss due to exploitation. When people are convinced that there is no other way they take to arms. bhanu --- "Dr. N.S. REDDY" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My Dear Friends, > > Let us Open a Discussion on " Naxalisam" > > How can we deal it? what will be our BM Stand on > Naxals. > > with best regards > nsreddy. > > > > Bhanuprakash Singh Chief Mechanical Engineer West Central Railway,Jabalpur India 482001office : 0091 7612677076 mob 0091 9425153150 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ============================================================================== TOPIC: Discussion in Hindi http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/8216909c09309588 ============================================================================== == 1 of 5 == Date: Wed, Mar 1 2006 12:17 pm From: "Ravi Kant Pathak" Dear Brother Rajneesh, I am ready to serve you in this task. Please write to me at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] thanks with turth Ravi 'Those who condemn politics to be the last resort of a scoundrel are bound to be ruled by scoundrels' - Plato If you agree with above quote, then be a part of second freedom struggle of India, Bharat Uday Mission, at http://bharatudaymission.org "We have only one passion, The rise of a Great Nation." Ravi Kant Pathak Department of Chemical Engineering Carnegie Mellon University Pittsburgh, PA-15213, USA phone: 1-412-268 6023 (office); 1-412-683 1315 (Residence) > ========================================================================= > ====TOPIC: bm discussion in hindi > http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/dc73165 > 75cd919c7 > ========================================================================= > ===== 1 of 1 =Date: Wed, Mar 1 2006 12:57 am From: "????? ?????" > > i want to take up the work translate the important stuff bm groups into > hindi periodically and to post it either on a blog or to make a regular > magazine. what do u think? is it a good idea. if yes, can some people help > me for this? regards rajneesh mangla > > > > > ========================================================================= > == 2 of 5 == Date: Thurs, Mar 2 2006 4:05 am From: "Ankur Gattani" Hi all, I'm not too sure if I'd be able to contribute to this task of translation to hindi in a regular manner, but i surely do appreciate the idea. What can be really useful is, to periodically take the summary of the discussions on social/policy issues (trying to encompass all kinds of thoughts..not identical to what we already in the media) as a sort of outcome of the discussion on any topic. (this also makes us responsible for having meaningful discussions which are also expected to have sensible outcomes in terms of conclusions and lessons learnt) These summaries can then be compiled as our internal thinking conclusions.. and filing these as articles in English/Hindi would be a great exercise towards the development of a rich content on all issues. The care has to be taken then.. that the author/translator doesn't let the summarization process be affected by his own bias/prejudice and the article captures the discussion in a fair manner. Regards, Ankur On 3/1/06, Ravi Kant Pathak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Dear Brother Rajneesh, > > I am ready to serve you in this task. Please write to me at: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] thanks > > with turth > Ravi > > 'Those who condemn politics to be the last resort of a scoundrel are bound > to be ruled by scoundrels' - Plato > > If you agree with above quote, then be a part of second freedom struggle > of > India, Bharat Uday Mission, at http://bharatudaymission.org > > "We have only one passion, > The rise of a Great Nation." > > Ravi Kant Pathak > Department of Chemical Engineering > Carnegie Mellon University > Pittsburgh, PA-15213, USA > phone: 1-412-268 6023 (office); > 1-412-683 1315 (Residence) > > > > ========================================================================= > > ====TOPIC: bm discussion in hindi > > > http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/dc73165 > > 75cd919c7 > > > ========================================================================= > > ===== 1 of 1 =Date: Wed, Mar 1 2006 12:57am From: "????? ?????" > > > > i want to take up the work translate the important stuff bm groups into > > hindi periodically and to post it either on a blog or to make a regular > > magazine. what do u think? is it a good idea. if yes, can some people > help > > me for this? regards rajneesh mangla > > > > > > > > > > > ========================================================================= > > > > > > -- Ankur Gattani IIT Bombay 98692 52842 "A crucial task before us is to overcome the defeatist mentality that has crept into our intelligentsia and the powers-that-be, the fatalistic belief that Indians cannot do anything new in India." A.P.J.Abdul Kalam Join us and be a part of the next Indian Revloution led by youth! www.bharatudaymission.org == 3 of 5 == Date: Thurs, Mar 2 2006 11:28 am From: "Ranjan Singh" Hi all, @Ankur we should not burden the translator with a Herculean task of summarising the discussion. At this point of time, even a verbatim translation will be more than sufficient. @Ravi & Rajneesh I deeply appreciate your concern and any effort by you in this direction will be a great contribution to BM and our country. With Regards, Ranjan == 4 of 5 == Date: Thurs, Mar 2 2006 1:50 am From: "????? ?????" thank you for the response. i will start working on this soon and will let you know. I have one more idea. i want to invest some money on hindi translation. It could be some literature, some English websites, or anything which is important. The idea I have in mind is to give regular salary to some needful translator in india for a full time job. I can provide upto 6000-7000 rupees per month. Any idea or suggestions in this direction? thank you == 5 of 5 == Date: Thurs, Mar 2 2006 1:57 am From: "????? ?????" at least for the moment (for information), you can look at my hindi blog: http://rajneesh-hindi.blogspot.com/ and the help on hindi in internet: http://www.akshargram.com/sarvagya/index.php/Main_page ============================================================================== You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BM_discussion" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] or visit http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change the way you get mail from this group, visit: http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/subscribe To report abuse, send email explaining the problem to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ============================================================================== Google Groups: http://groups.google.com
