[uucdigest] Wednesday, January 26 2000 Volume 03 : Number 121 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | For all available Digest commands including unsubscribe/subscribe, | visit the BMW UUC Digest page: http://www.uucdigest.com | Send SUBMISSIONS to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Complaints? Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you must. | Visit http://www.bubbaclub.com | www.bimmers.com - "serving enthusiasts on the 'net" | Visit http://www.bimmer.org - ultimate BMW bulletin boards! | Subscribe to the Zionsville Autosport Parts Digest: | http://www.zionsvilleautosport.com/majordomo.htm ����������������������������������������� In this BMW UUC Digest: [uuc] Re: Winter Driving (in BMWs) & Audi's Re: [uuc] melting ice [uuc] FS - Four ContiSportContact tires - 225/50ZR16 [uuc] e30 is spoiler [uuc] Pentosin hydraulic fluid in Atlanta? RE: [uuc] melting ice [uuc] RE: e30 325i thermostat R&R ? RE: [uuc] Opinions needed: RD vs. H&R springs for E36 [uuc] What was the CCA elections deadline? Re: [uuc] Pentosin hydraulic fluid in Atlanta? [uuc] <misc> More HP from coolant bypass Re: [uuc] What was the CCA elections deadline? [uuc] <M3 E36> Tires - size? [uuc] RE: THE E30 M3 FS ON E-BAY Re: [uuc] dry ice dent removal Re: [uuc] Re: <WOB> Audi [uuc] How to register for UDE in NJ? [uuc] Audi Woes [uuc] Re: Merc manuals lurking (NoBMWC) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 15:09:59 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] Re: Winter Driving (in BMWs) & Audi's Having owned many BMWs over the years and living here in the snowbelt of Northern NJ, I've had no choice but to make most of my BMWs snow-worthy. The best cars I had in the snow were my E30's.. I purchased a pair of Pirelli P-W10 (?) Winter Tires Sized 185/65 & (2) 14" Steel Wheels for my first E30, a 1984 318i. I put a 2 Ton Jack in the trunk, along with a couple of bags of sand, and there was pretty much no where that car didn't go. I was able to salvage the tires for the '89 325iS, which was even better than the 318 (it was heavier and had LSD). The '89 really kicked ass. I remember once after a 10" snowfall here in NJ my friend and I went out (he had an AWD Eagle Talon).. he figured I'd get stuck, but not once. We even attempted some sizable hills, and I had no problem. Get this - I even stopped in the middle of one and started again. Crazy. That really put my confidence in Winter tires. As many of you might have been aware of, I was desperately awaiting a major snowstorm. Well, my prayers were answered yesterday, albeit suprisingly. My girlfriend has a '98 Audi A4 1.8T Quattro Sport, and last night, I took it out for a little fun. Theres no doubt that Quattro rules in the snow. I have a '95 Dodge Ram 1500 4x4 for Snow-Duty, but I seriously think the Audi goes, stops and handles MUCH better in snowy conditions. All those w/E30's and who have to drive them in the snow - my advice is to get yourself a good set of snow's and some weight in the trunk (along with a full tank of gas, the night before a big storm). - -Ted '99 323i/4 (That Doesn't see Snow) P.S. - Does anyone remember the old Audi Quattro commercial (in the 80s) when it was racing a Snow-Cat up a real Ski-Jump.. they got to the top alongside the Snow-Cat and the announcer says "Ours has a better radio." That was cool. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 15:16:01 -0500 From: Chip Baines <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] melting ice Putting hot water on the car may cause more problems than it solves. First, I don't think the ice by itself is a problem to the car's paint or finish, as long as you don't do something silly like try to remove it with a ski pole (my brother the PhD astrophysicist actually did this once, and then couldn't understand why there were so many scratches on his car - duh! Thankfully, his car was "only" a Buick). The hot water idea, on the other hand, MAY cause problems from thermal stresses - for example, a body panel trying to expand under the higher temperature of the hot water while the underlying chassis is still cold. Also, the hot water will land on your driveway and cause a terrible ice patch that may last till spring. - -Chip Baines BMW CCA '86 528e '97 328iC > After the wonderful weather that we've had here in SoEast PA. I've noticed > when cleaning the snow off of my car that a layer of ice has formed around > my whole car. This doesn't seem to be good for my paint, so I was > considering melting the ice off with some hot water. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 15:16:59 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] FS - Four ContiSportContact tires - 225/50ZR16 For Sale - Four Continental Sport Contact tires - 225/50ZR16. Tire Rack currently lists the Conti Sport Contacts in 225/50ZR16 for $158 each. Mine were removed at 1200 miles and are in exc. cond. Any reasonable offer gets them. Buyer pays UPS shipping, unless you're in the Chicago area and we can work out a meeting. Please email me directly if you're interested: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lenn Hann '00 323i sport, with Hakkas for the white stuff! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 15:30:31 -0500 From: Steve Stoner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] e30 is spoiler I got a copy of the e30 "is" spoiler lip off of my long departed 91 318is. If anyone is interested, I'm in northern virginia and would let it go for a reasonable sum, say $75 american. I believe all the eyelets are intact. If anyone is interested I'll verify. Contact me off list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 15:26:54 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] Pentosin hydraulic fluid in Atlanta? I've not made a detailed search yet, but need to get a can of the Pentosin HTF 7.1 for Stella. A few calls have been unsuccessful. Any ideas where in the Atlanta area I might find this? Thanks in advance! Steve Jones 1990 750iL 'Stella' BMWCCA Peachtree, GA Chapter #164681 pics at http://conundrumcomputing.com/bimmer.htm ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 15:35:26 -0500 From: "Cagann, Alexander" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] melting ice About this melting the ice off with hot water business...I've got an idea. Pull your BMW in your heated garage and wash that damn salt off! No ice then. :-) Alex Cagann 88///M5 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 14:35:20 -0600 From: "Fadeev, Alex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] RE: e30 325i thermostat R&R ? Matthew Shaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> asks: > > I need to R&R the thermostat in my 90 325i. You meant to say _replace_, right? > I've never done it on a 325 engine, so I'm > just looking for any tricks to make it a quick > job of it. There is an O ring for the housing, > so I assume there is no need for sealant right? right. > How much coolant should I drain first? none. > Any other tips would be appreciated. remember to bleed the air out of the cooling system. alex f ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 15:38:25 -0500 (EST) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [uuc] Opinions needed: RD vs. H&R springs for E36 Perrin: FWIW, I also own a '93 325is, and went with the H&R springs/Bilstein Sport shocks/RD Sport Sway bars setup, which was recommended by Will Turner/Turner Motorsports. In a nutshell, I've been extremely happy with the results. The ride is definitely firmer, but my kidneys have not suffered, and the handling is unbelievable compared to stock. The car �points&shoots� like never before, and is still fairly predictable at the edge of traction, so it has yet to get away from me (knock on wood) beyond an occasional quick flick of opposite lock on corner exits (this of course may also be tire related... FYI, I'm running Dunlop SP8000's 225x50-16's). As far as lowering, the net effect on my car was about 1.25" in front and 1" in back, which hasn't turned the car into a curb-eater. Granted, I no longer have to deal with snow, so I can�t share any experiences there (side benefit of moving from Boston to Austin, TX :-) Let me know of I can share any more feedback and we can take this offline. YMMV, IMHO, and all that... And one final piece of advice: If you haven't already done so, I'd recommend having a chat with one of the friendly folks at Turner Motorsport, who in my experience have been quite willing to share their expertise and opinions on this and other tuning issues. (http://www.turnermotorsport.com) Hope this helps, Felipe. [EMAIL PROTECTED] '93 325is [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - ---snip--- I'm thinking about the ever popular H&R sports and possibly RD springs, but can't seem to find many people with the RD's on their car. Should I take this as a hint that they're not very good? Any and all opinions are welcome from anybody with experience with either of these setups. By the way the RD springs are just plain Racing Dynamic springs (green in color)and not the RD Sport springs. Thanks in advance! Regards, Perrin Yang '93 325is BMW CCA - Genesee Valley Chapter - ---snip--- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 12:46:06 -0800 (PST) From: Chester Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] What was the CCA elections deadline? Subject line sez it all... TIA, Chester ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 15:51:22 -0500 From: "Dean Boucouras" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Pentosin hydraulic fluid in Atlanta? I bought mine at my local BMW Dealer. I would hope that one of the dealers in the Atlanta area has some for you. Dean ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 16:09:09 -0500 From: ROliver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] <misc> More HP from coolant bypass Would anybody care to weigh in on the pros and cons of bypassing the coolant lines that run through the throttle body. I've seen some discussion of this technique as it applies to other makes (specifically Corvettes) in order to increase HP (less heating of the incoming air resulting in a more dense charge). I asked Jim C about this at the tech session at Curry's a few months ago and he said something about ~ 7HP increases for my car ('95 M3), but he was a little pressed for time so I couldn't grill him as much as I would have liked. Any info would be appreciated. Rich Oliver '95 M3, JC'ed, Euro-HFM'ed, SS'ed ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 16:15:06 -0500 (EST) From: Joe Walsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] What was the CCA elections deadline? Ballot must be received at the accounting firm by Feb. 11th. You still got time. Joe '92 325is CCA166726 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 08:16:52 +1100 From: "Edgington, Bill BM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] <M3 E36> Tires - size? Digesters; Anybody running Yoko Intermediates on your 97+ M3? If so, since they don't have a direct swap for the 225/45 -> what did you use 215? I understand that more than 2% change will/can affect the trac control? Enlightenment anyone, anyone, Bueller? TIA Bill Edgington not so warm in Houston today EOM NOTICE - This message contains information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. It may also be confidential and/or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 15:19:05 -0800 From: "BILL MITCHELL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] RE: THE E30 M3 FS ON E-BAY FYI, I started bidding on this car(which looks really nice) at about $11,500 and kept getting outbid. I stopped this morning and went back this afternoon to check and the price is now(or was a few minutes ago) up to $15,600 and climbing. This guy is going to get a great price for his car. course, he may be bidding on it himself. Bill Mitchell '95 540i/6 '90 325is '97 740il would like an E30 M3 but not at that price ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 16:49:54 -0500 From: "Rob Levinson - UUC Motorwerks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] dry ice dent removal I've heard of it. I've also heard of using a hair dryer and then regular ice. It's the rapid change in temperature taht causes the metal to change shape rapidly that allows certain dings to pop out. Unfortunately, it only works on specific types... like if someone "hip slammed" the door, it should work. If you've got a bad point-type door ding, then it may not work. BMW paint is usually fairly thick so it shouldn't crack unless the initial ding damaged it. I would say that the hair dryer and ice cube way couldn't hurt anything. I don't know about dry ice. - - Rob - ----- Original Message ----- From: Binder, Larry - Paoli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] dry ice dent removal > Has anyone heard of using dry ice to remove dings on their cars? How safe > is this for your paint? > > Larry > 97 318i ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 16:54:09 -0500 From: "Rob Levinson - UUC Motorwerks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: <WOB> Audi I never said rarity was a bad trait. Besdes, there have been two pressurized big sixes within 4 feet of each other... right in my driveway. I'd say that's a good "population density" to have! Too bad I sold one. I was going to give you that one, but you missed out. ;-) - - Rob - ----- Original Message ----- From: Christian Els <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: <WOB> Audi > Rob Levinson - UUC Motorwerks wrote: > > > > Okay, but let's discuss cars with distribution slightly greater than one per > > US state, huh? > > Like, say, pressurized big-sixes? I'm pretty sure my state is below it's > quota. Anyone want to donate one in the interest of fair distribution? > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 16:56:32 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] How to register for UDE in NJ? I checked out the BMW USA website, but there's no information on how to sign up for the X5 Ultimate Driving Experience at the Meadowlands. The toll-free Komen drive number was no help either. Can someone who's been there give me the tel. no. for registration? I'd love to try it out while we've still got snow. Thanks in advance, - -Drew Zacharda '90 535i 5-speed '89 325iX ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 17:00:33 -0500 From: "Steve D'Gerolamo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Audi Woes Repost- The new S4 and TT are considered great cars here in the states. To some of the German enthusiasts, the story is a little different: 10/99: There has been much discussion lately between the new Audi S4 and the E36 M3 with many here (especially the car magazines) in the US favoring the Audi these days. I spoke with Movit today (they sell many Audi brake kits, including kits to tuner Christian Abt) and this car is having some problems in Germany. Problems include those with the engine management system & air intakes. The dual intercoolers are a joke in his opinion as the A/C condenser blocks flow to one and the fog light blocks air to the other. These cars suffer from very high fuel consumption in a country with costly fuel. Lastly, the turbos are apparently undersized and modifications are barely able to generate 270-280hp...nowhere near the 300+ that many tuners are claiming. Guido said he would take an M3 anyday over these Audi's. The Audi TT is also having problems......poor aerodynamics. There is talk of lawsuits with at least 5 deaths reported because of the tendency of the car to lift in the rear at 200km/h speeds. Engineers have added 50kg to the trunk which helps a bit but the designers are reluctant to add spoilers since, in their opinion, this would detract from the car's aesthetics. (1/00- I believe Audi has finally conceded and added a slight spoiler to the TT) (6/99- SportAuto did a comparative test of stock vs Movit brakes on an Audi 1.8TT. They did consecutive high speed stops with each setup, cold and warm from 200km. With the stock brakes, the first stop from 200km/h yielded rotors temps of 417C front & 278C rear.....the Movit brakes were 150C front & 97C rear. By the time they did the 5th stop from 200km/h, the stock rotors were at 600+C both front and rear with flames coming front the front hub assembly...testing was suspended. With the Movit brakes at the 10th consecutive 200km/h stop, rotor temps were only 356C front & 169C rear. Now this really doesn't mean much here in the states as there's little chance these cars will be driven at drivers schools where you'd be doing this kind of high speed braking. It is significant in Germany.) Now, before I get accused of bashing Audi, let me say that they make a fine road car with excellent value. If we didn't have a dog, the SUV would be traded in a heartbeat for an Audi quattro. These cars are far superior to BMW in the kind of weather we've had here on the East coast today. Audi's engineering is excellent for the most part but they tend to be a little too cost conscious with many of their chassis/suspension/brake parts. I don't think you'll find any BMW club racers abandoning their M3's to race an A4 (well maybe Don Salama...just kidding Don). I can also say the same for all of the new Porsches...the last good Porsche in my opinion was the 993 series, especially the turbo. The differences in the 996 components are obvious to the technicians and the fact that every 996 owner gets a letter with the purchase of their car forbidding its use on the track indicates (to me) a significant change in this company's philosophy. SD ========================================= Steve D'Gerolamo - The Ultimate Garage 201-262-0412 / [EMAIL PROTECTED] / http://www.ultimategarage.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 09:14:43 +1100 From: "Thomas, Andrew j" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: Merc manuals lurking (NoBMWC) John ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes: > I too like the looks of the new Mercs, I don't know what they > make for the rest of the world Um... well, you can have a manual tranny if you *really really* want one... > but until they throw a manual transmission into a US version > of their cars (one that improves performance - unlike the one > in the SLK) they'll all be geezer-mobiles to me I'd honestly stick with the auto. I doubt there are any manual transmissions that improve performance - M-B usually quotes slightly faster acceleration times for its automatic cars. The increased efficiency of the manual gearbox is negated by the slow change (ever driven a M-B manual? A base-model, windy-up-window C180 required a brief work-out and stretching session for me, although the high mileage might have had something to do with that). Along with the revised E-class, M-B (OK, DaimlerChrysler) released a new breed of diesels which use a new manual transmission, supposedly a huge improvement on the earlier ones. So these may filter through to the petrol cars. Don't hold yer breath though. Andy T "This email is intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above and may contain information that is confidential and privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. 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