[uucdigest] Monday, January 31 2000 Volume 03 : Number 157 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | For all available Digest commands including unsubscribe/subscribe, | visit the BMW UUC Digest page: http://www.uucdigest.com | Send SUBMISSIONS to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Complaints? Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you must. | Visit http://www.bubbaclub.com | www.bimmers.com - "serving enthusiasts on the 'net" | Visit http://www.bimmer.org - ultimate BMW bulletin boards! | Subscribe to the Zionsville Autosport Parts Digest: | http://www.zionsvilleautosport.com/majordomo.htm ����������������������������������������� In this BMW UUC Digest: [uuc] fittin that darn AC belt on E28 [uuc] <FS> M3 style mirror for e36 4 door Re: [uuc] Police State [uuc] E28 (M5, 535i) AC belt.. Re: [uuc] Mirrors [uuc] RE: Fair price (Was: M5's for sale) Re: [uuc] <E30> What does this sensor do? [uuc] Sun visors [uuc] Re: M1--Cost of Keeping on the Road Re: [uuc] bought the F650 [uuc] <OT> F1 engine question RE: [uuc] Sun visors [uuc] osh at rms [uuc] More brake Problems [uuc] More brake Problems Re: [uuc] More brake Problems [uuc] ROTFLMAO at myself ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 12:25:36 -0500 From: "Cagann, Alexander" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] fittin that darn AC belt on E28 Eric Rayl was kind enough to forward the following message concerning getting the blasted AC belt on E28's: Alex, You can post this back to the llist if you wish, I can't post to the list from here at work. Yes, the stock part # belt is seemingly too short to install, but it can be done and here's how: First, put the belt on the back (engine side) of the crank pulley, behind the pulley, then put the belt onto the compressor pulley, then work it forward onto the crank pulley. It will work with a little muscle and prying. Trying to put it on from the front is a no-go. Eric Rayl 535is ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 09:34:55 -0800 (PST) From: James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] <FS> M3 style mirror for e36 4 door The last buyer backed out. So the M3 mirror goes back up for sale. Please, serious bids only. All details could be found on the page. http://auctions.yahoo.com/auction/16619617?u= Thanks. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 12:35:03 -0500 From: "Ellie MacDougall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Police State Jim Powell wrote: > I won't go into any of my personal feeling about police but I think its > interesting and frightening that a rather large portion of the middle > class HATES the police. More than a decade ago, when we lived in southern Connecticut, I came upon a woman in a broken down car in the middle of the eight lane wide Quinnipiac Bridge that crosses the Connecticut River east of New Haven. She was trapped in rush hour traffic, unable to get out of the car to get help. I got off in New Haven and, half a block from the exit, stopped at an Italian bakery and asked to use their phone. I explained why. As soon as I said the word "police", the kindly little woman took the phone she was getting from under the counter and put it back, refusing to let me use it. She was clearly American born, and also one of the bakery's owners, so it was no INS issue. It wasn't until I explained I was calling the State Police to get a wrecker for this woman, and not calling the New Haven police, that she gave me the phone. Kinda tells you something, doesn't it? Ellie MacDougall - -- Need a quick virtual vacation? Visit our Maine farm at http://www.blueskyfarm.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 08:13:37 -0500 From: Don Eilenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] E28 (M5, 535i) AC belt.. >From: "Cagann, Alexander" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: [uuc] <E28 M5> Changing V-Belt on A/C Comp. > >> I'm in the middle of changing the coolant hoses, water pump, >> and belts on my >> E28 M5 and I'm having a heck of a time installing the new >> belt on the a/c >> compressor pulley...it was tough getting the old one off too. >> >> Is there a trick to the a/c belt?....the adjustment spline >> bolt is as loose >> as it will go....removing the belts off the power steering pump and >> alternator were easy. Is the only way to install the belt on the a/c >> compressor to partially remove the comp. unit? >> >> Anyone who has done this that has the answer please >> "enlighten" me...I want >> to get the car back together now before I forget where >> everything goes<g>! > > >John, count me in on this problem. I am still driving around with no belt >to the AC condensor (but it's winter so.....oh well). It seems absolutely >impossible to get on. I had to cut the old one off. Yep, other two belts >went on like cake. What is the trick here? > >Alex Cagann >88///M5 Alex and John - common problem. Seems the stock belt IS spec'd too small. Get next size larger - will go on like it's supposed to. I think Steve D' knows about this and sends the correct size.. Best, ........................................ Don Eilenberger, Spring Lk Hts, NJ JMP#1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] NJ Shore BMW Riders web page: http://www.monmouth.com/~deilenberger You're absolutely right, and I apologize --Darryl Richman ........................................ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 12:57:58 -0500 From: "Pat Donahue" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Mirrors That would be http://www.mitocorp.com/nvsmirro.htm (posted originally by Pat Donahue). I finally ordered one which UPS tried to deliver Friday while I was out but wouldn't because I wasn't there to sign for it (I'm certain I filled out paperwork at their headquarters to automatically leave anything that required my signature...appears to have been a waste of my time) and I'll put it in when weather permits all the crawling around in my truck (the tow beast in this case). I'll post my results whether y'all want them or not. Geeeze '91 Honda Gold Wing - ----- Original Message ----- From: Munsoor Malik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Some time ago there was a post regarding rear view mirrors from a > company called Don something. It had auto dimmimg and some other > attributes. Please can you send me the web site name for this if you > recall it. > > Thanks, > Munsoor Malik ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 13:05:05 -0500 From: "George, Zachariah (CICG Development)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] RE: Fair price (Was: M5's for sale) This could not be truer in the Real estate, Housing market. We were in the market for a house last year, and with the booming economy and all, house prices were ridiculous this side of New York City.. When we tried to verify if a house was worth the asking price, our attorney repeated your Mom's words. FWIW: houses were going for nearly twice what they sold for two-three years ago. > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 20:24:23 -0500 > From: "Timothy Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [uuc] Re: M5s for sale > > While I agree with your sentiment, my mom once told me that a > 'fair price' > is what the buyer will pay and the seller will take. > Sometimes the free > market ain't pretty, but it's better than anything else out there. > > Tim > > ------------------------------ > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 13:24:29 -0500 From: "Tarun Kundhi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] <E30> What does this sensor do? Sensor for the temp gauge. Not related to the idle or fuel delivery. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Geoff Marsh-GS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 31, 2000 11:27 AM Subject: [uuc] <E30> What does this sensor do? > On a 1990 325is, does anyone know what sensor is mounted next to the coolant > temp. sensor on the thermostat housing? It has a brown connector and has only > one terminal. I don't think it is a thermo time switch or a coolant temp switch > because I don't think they were used on the M20 engine. I'm trying to > troubleshoot some idle problems and I thought it might be at fault. Thanks for > the help! > > Geoff > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 14:37:32 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] Sun visors Hey all, I own an '86 528e, a great car in excelent condition. However the other day I was driving down the freeway when the drivers side sun visor decided to die on me. It no longer has the friction required to keep any position other than the one gravitiy gravity dictates, which is hanging straight down. I don't know how you all feel about driving with the sunvisor in your face when you don't need it, but it annoyes the crap out of me. For the moment, I've got it stuck in it's un-used position using some self adhesive velcro pads. But I'd like to be able to fix it to it's proper working order. Anyone delt with this problem before? Any serious thougths would be appreiciated. THanks in advance! R Chao LOL ;o)~ '86 528e ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 15:03:43 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] Re: M1--Cost of Keeping on the Road In a message dated 1/31/00 11:39:25 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << If you do your homework, you'll find that M1s don't bring much money these days and have been steadily depreciating from a hight of about $125,000 to now when quite nice examples are sold for $60k. See Roundel for contact information for Gordon Medenica and the M1 Registry. Gordon has had the honor of paying over 6 figures and then LOTS less for a nicer car later. (Just don't let him tell you that the gas filler caps aren't always on the outside of the car.) - -Phil Marx BMWCCA #6021 >> I, too, have been watching with interest as M1 prices fall and have had a talk or two with folks who know something (we'll, at least more than I do) :-) about these cars, as it has always been a dream of mine to own one. I've been told, though, that even as exotics go, replacement parts--even simple stuff like water pumps--for this vehicle are *outrageously* expensive and/or NLA, period. Is this correct Phil (or anybody else in a position to know)? TIA, - --Bob DiLeonardi Windy City Chapter BMW CCA '88 ///M5 47k miles Many former Bimmers ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 12:09:11 -0800 From: Jim Powell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] bought the F650 I meant I bought the BMW to *avoid* the tatoo craowd, the drug crowd, the profanity crowd, the anti-establishment ( I think I'm anti-establishment at BMW ) crowd and the loser, can't keep a job crowd. I just wanted a nice commuter bike without the 'lifestyle' equations. I've driven lots of air cooled BMWs, just to take a ride on friends bikes. I'll be frank, I never owned a bike that weighed more than 250 lbs until I bought the pig (1978 Honda). I used to race flat track and moto-x. I don't like heavy bikes and to me the BMW was the Cadillac of motorcycles. They had their purposes and none of them were for me. Thats not to say I don't like them. I just don't do that type of riding. Jim Phil Marx wrote: > > Jim Powell wrote: > >Bought mine for the dealership as much as the bike. I'm getting a > >little tired of explaining I don't have a tatoo. Really. > > > >And taking my kids into a bike shop is always a real experience. > > I've been riding BMW bikes since I was in high school and don't have a > tatoo, either. I doubt it's your BMW dealer that is questioning your > unmolested epidermis. Here in Virginia I'd take my kids to any of the > dealers, but, like you, I happen to like the BMW guys the best. Of the two > closest, one is a BMW car dealer, the other is a second generation owned > BMW bike-only shop, owned by a BMW car-driving/ex-CCA member. > > Did you ever try an air-cooled boxer like the R80 or R100GS? > > -Phil ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 14:09:37 -0600 From: "Scott McLaughlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] <OT> F1 engine question What is a typical peak torque value, and at what rpm's, for a modern F1 engine? I've heard estimates for peak horsepower of 850 at 14,000 rpm. Sound about right? That would correspond to about 320 ft-lbs or 430 NM, but that's at 14,000rpm, perhaps it makes a bit more at lower rpm? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 15:21:07 -0500 From: "Cagann, Alexander" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] Sun visors > I own an '86 528e, a great car in excelent condition. > However the other > day I was driving down the freeway when the drivers side sun > visor decided to > die on me. It no longer has the friction required to keep any > position other > than the one gravitiy gravity dictates, which is hanging > straight down. Considering the E28's all have the same or similar visors (the front part of the headliner is hard black vinyl), I would just get one from a yard. Try Bimmerworld or other such place. Perhaps someone has one laying around. I have a totalled 87 535is in a yard somewhere and the visors may still be there. I won't have time to go there for a while though. Let me know if no yards have one and I will try and get one for you. Alex Cagann 88///M5 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 12:37:56 -0800 From: Jonathan Tsao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] osh at rms I misplaced his number too-deliberately because I was PROMISED literature by Osh personally five times over a period of 1 year and never heard a peep. can you imagine what it's going to be like after you send in your check........ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 15:35:44 -0500 From: "Rentler, Karl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] More brake Problems A friend of mine is having a brake problem and I really didn't have the answer. The steering wheel vibrates when the brakes are applied at about 70 mph but it is not noticed at lower speeds. Also no pulsation was noticed through the brake pedal. If you have any input as to what it might be please email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks Karl ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 15:43:07 -0500 From: "Rentler, Karl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] More brake Problems I added the make of the car to possibly help answer the question. A friend of mine is having a brake problem with a chevy malibu and I really didn't have the answer. The steering wheel vibrates when the brakes are applied at about 70 mph but it is not noticed at lower speeds. Also no pulsation was noticed through the brake pedal. If you have any input as to what it might be please email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks Karl ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 12:53:09 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Yip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] More brake Problems If you're getting a pulsation, most likely, the car needs new rotors - --- "Rentler, Karl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I added the make of the car to possibly help answer the question. > > A friend of mine is having a brake problem with a chevy malibu and > I really > didn't have the answer. The steering wheel vibrates when the brakes > are > applied at about 70 mph but it is not noticed at lower speeds. Also > no > pulsation was noticed through the brake pedal. If you have any > input as to > what it might be please email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Thanks > Karl > ===== Matthew Yip [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/mgyip/ '87 GTi 16v - x2 '88 M5 '99 F350 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 12:54:23 -0800 From: Jim Powell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] ROTFLMAO at myself I bet at least half of you think I'm a pompous ass. Sometimes :) But nobody likes a joke at my expense more than me. Some of you know the famous '12 dozen condoms from UPS' situation that I endured with my neighbors. And there are dozens more. I could have Candid Camera here almost everyday, I'm such a goober. What's the latest? I had jury duty today and didn't get picked so I came home. I'm getting ready to take the new bike for a ride and put my full face helmet on in the garage. Then I forget I left the registration papers upstairs. So I run up the stairs with the helmet on. Papers are sitting at the desk with the computer. Kids walk in for lunch and catch me at the desk (with UUC email on screen) wearing the helmet in the middle of the day. 12 y/o daughter gives me 'the look'. "Dad, you need help about this car thing". Another story added to the legend. Gotta go, clouds are clearing. Jim ------------------------------ End of [uucdigest] V3 #157 ************************** _________________________________________ | Please visit these UUC-approved BMW parts vendors/service providers: | (listed alphabetically) | Bonneville Motorwerks . http://www.bonnevillemotorwerks.com | Circle Tire Co. 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